Return-Path: Received: from rly-md09.mx.aol.com (rly-md09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.147]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD102-9284803c6683b7; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:02:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md09.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD098-9284803c6683b7; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:02:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JlVoE-0002oW-LC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:01:50 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JlVoE-0002oN-0q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:01:50 +0100 Received: from elvis.franken.de ([193.175.24.41] ident=[bYJWziDQ/8f0YZAgyH+xuuChSA34I02y]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JlVo8-0004jP-IC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 22:01:49 +0100 Received: from uucp by elvis.franken.de with local-rmail (Exim 3.36 #1) id 1JlVo7-0000HO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:01:43 +0200 Received: from [192.168.1.12] (uhrenpc [192.168.1.12]) by mbsks.zwiebeltuete.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D0062EC768 for ; Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:00:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <4803C5D3.7090504@mbsks.franken.de> Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2008 23:00:03 +0200 From: Roland Bruestle User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <904323.24159.qm@web63605.mail.re1.yahoo.com> <47FE47AD.7010100@mbsks.franken.de> <728195058.1208132304.168379540.43837@mcgi39.rambler.ru> <48031FD3.8060307@mbsks.franken.de> <909043430.1208192629.170659884.48988@mcgi41.rambler.ru> In-Reply-To: <909043430.1208192629.170659884.48988@mcgi41.rambler.ru> X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.518,URIBL_SBL=1.094 Subject: Re: LF: Re: DI2AT 505.145KHz on the air Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Roman I will tell a little bit about my beacon. The PA is a converted CB-PA with 80/150W and 28MHz. I had to change all the filters to 505Khz. Now it has 70-80W as linear amplifier. Than was a Software Defined Transmitter SDT added. It was a kit of SoftRock RX/TXv6.6 for 160m (about 30€). I had to change the filters to 505kHz. This SDT has a small PA with 1W. But you can easily get more than 2W. The SDT has a single Quartz 4MHZ. This gives me a center frqeuency of 500kHz for RX and TX. The Frequency range is twice of the sound card band width. That means in my case 480-520kHz. The input into the SDR is a I/Q-Signal with the freqeuency of 505.145kHz -500kHz = 5.145kHz. How do I come to this signal? To create the modulated signal I am using Spectrum Lab with a center frequency set to 1000Hz. Spectrum Lab can all the modes I am transmitting till now. With other programs I could use modes like Wolf. But in Germany we are limited to 505 to 505.2 kHz = 200Hz band width for 6 beacons. Therefore Wolf needs to much frequency. Now back. We have got a modulated signal for one mode. With the audio editor you can put together several modes to series. This audio signal has to be converted with MOKGK (RX_TX_kgksdr11.exe) to a I/Q-signal with this necessary 5.145kHz. The right signal for the SDR on the frequency of DI2AT. You can send it directly via sound card to SDT or what I am doing I am storing the audio signal into a SD-Disk and use it with a MP3-Player. That means I need a MP3-Player, SDT and a PA for the beacon during transmitting. Nothing more, no computer. Uff! The horizontal part of the antenna is pointing to south/ west. That means the max. gain shows directly to Moscow. Roman let me now if you have some additional questions. Good luck Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR Roman RW3ADB schrieb: > Hi Roland! > > * Roland Bruestle [Mon, 14 Apr 2008 11:11:47 +0200]: >> Hello Roman >> thank you for the really surprising report. >> The world is sometimes full of, I hope only good, surprises. > > I hope all next surprises will be good.-) > Now I know I was copy your trace here so often. > It was a first time when I copy a readable signal DI2AT here. > I copy only line before that.Because it I was not sure. > > You are forestall my questions!) > I'm so very interesting whats TX are you use for too match modes at once? > >> Beacon parameters: >> Call: DI2AT >> Operator: Roland DL3NDR >> QTH: Neunkirchen a. B. / Nu"rnberg >> Locater: JN59NO >> TX: Software Defined Transmitter of SoftRock >> Software: Spectrum Lab, MULIPSK, MixW, Audio Editor, Audio player >> PA: CB-PA, adapted to 500kHz ; 70W > > What is a amp mode are you use for that? > AB class? > What is a model of CB-PA you are adapted to 500 kHz? > Is it possible to look fotos of your equipment? > >> Antenna: inverted L, 50m, 10m high; 1W ERP > > Not so high.I suppose that. > In my observations I'm copy well the signals of the stations with > antennas 25-30 m's high here. > Tell me pse how is oriented your inv-L? > >> Perhaps you can sometimes receive another modes. > > I hope-) > > > 73! > Roman > >> Best wishes >> Roland DI2AT/DL3NDR >> >> Roman RW3ADB schrieb: >> > Hi Roland & LF! >> > >> > The day full of surprises today! >> > I copy trace of DI2AT readable some times in Moscow. >> > http://qrss.nm.ru/14apr2008_DI2AM_DI2AT/505.1_3_0001.jpg >> > http://qrss.nm.ru/14apr2008_DI2AM_DI2AT/505.1_3_0002.jpg >> > http://qrss.nm.ru/14apr2008_DI2AM_DI2AT/505.1_3_0005.jpg >> > >> > 73! >> > Roman >> > >> > >> > * Roland Bruestle [Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:00:29 >> +0200]: >> >> Hello Andy >> >> sorry, thank you for the report. It was to expect but it is > although >> >> disappointing. >> >> Did you ever receive DI2AM. His power is at least 10 times as > much.as >> > my >> >> beacon. >> >> Good DX and let's try next winter. >> >> 73 de DI2AT/DL3NDR >> >> >> >> KU4XR schrieb: >> >> > Hello Roland; and all LF-ers: >> >> > >> >> > Roland I monitored from 20:00 UTC until 10:30 UTC ( Thurs morn. ) >> on >> >> 505.145 in QRSS-10 mode. >> >> > I used ARGO set at maximum weak signal detection, with about a > 30Hz >> >> window, capturing every 30 >> >> > minutes. Unfortunately, all I had were some TV lines. Getting too >> > late >> >> in the season now. >> >> > the static level at 10:00 UTC ( 6 am local time ) in super narrow >> > mode >> >> was peaking at 7 to 9dB. >> >> > That's very high for that early in the morning. Europe will be my >> >> challenge next winter season. >> >> > >> >> > 73 to all, Andy Bell - KU4XR - EM75xr >> >> > >> >> > __________________________________________________ >> >> > Do You Yahoo!? >> >> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >> >> > http://mail.yahoo.com >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > -- >> > Roman RW3ADB. >> > >> > -- >> > Побег из Москвы - самое дерзкое приключение сезона! >> > http://pobeg.rambler.ru/ >> > >> > >> >> > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > -- > Побег из Москвы - самое дерзкое приключение сезона! > http://pobeg.rambler.ru/ > >