Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF073-95e480d1b632f1; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:55:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF054-95e480d1b632f1; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:55:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Jo4uk-0003nS-Oy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:55:10 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Jo4uk-0003nJ-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:55:10 +0100 Received: from smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.65]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Jo4ug-0008HY-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:55:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 63807 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2008 22:55:00 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=jwj3+LT2ROn7xjFeIzLCDXLutmrs0IO8r45yCDxhkjkqmG2gwXthGAoNYc2nS2c+DSiJM8VqQuOGStodGs3zvBy2/XvwebJPEMH8i+SDOYrhXE+Gibqhz76lQ15p3eLgHSiiagbjg1uBEDVAnJunXsE/gIQgPz7y7G3ZfvhuUdk= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.69.148 with login) by smtp805.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2008 22:55:00 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: ZisCoF4VM1n39YQAWzKpKsRZrVnXkRJwEBcCzTDjxC9ohMUZAZCt21FlyvMZqoje72SMH93okQ-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <006701c8a402$bd1f63e0$0900a8c0@AM> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <005601c8a3fd$aaebe9a0$0900a8c0@AM> <480D156B.4010103@usa.net> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 23:54:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: bad format (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Reflector problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Alberto yes it is a while back now but I had several cases of postings taking 3 and 5 weeks to get reflected !!. But owners I know say it is not a fit and forget and list membership needs constantly checking.....to the stage when the first couple of messages need to be moderated. There seem to be people who bother to register manually to loads of groups and then sell the registrations much later when moderator vigilance has lapsed. The Groups I sub to are a mixed bag some I will only use web site access because they are so badly compromised..... in some cases it is quite difficult to find the real messages. But then also some groups seem like an owner ego-trip....I visited one recently where 95% or more of the messages were from the owner !! Best Wishes Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto di Bene" To: Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 11:30 PM Subject: Re: LF: Reflector problems > Alan Melia wrote: > > > > To Dave's comment I dont think Yahoo is any better it has had some pretty > > bad problems over the last year or so, and there is quite a lot of > > resistance to their intrusive registration data requirements. > > Hi Alan, > > just my two cents about Yahoo. While it maybe wants to know a bit too much about you, for the rest it is today much > better than a couple of years ago, I administer three lists on Yahoo, and frankly never had a problem. A few attempts of > spam were correctly identified by the spam filters, and routed to me, as administrator, for approval or rejection. > > But, as our US friends use to say, YMMV .... > > 73 Alberto I2PHD > >