Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (rly-yc01.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.144]) by air-yc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINYC11-1b047e7e0c94e; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:12:12 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc01.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC12-1b047e7e0c94e; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:11:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JdqCi-0005tr-Kr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JdqCh-0005th-QV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:23 +0000 Received: from qmta10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JdqCe-0001Z1-3w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:23 +0000 Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 4ysg1Z0010FhH24AA0Ws00; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:10:52 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([98.216.186.111]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 55BA1Z0022QeJuS8U00000; Mon, 24 Mar 2008 17:11:11 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=ZMcHU5W5Th4A:10 a=rITDv7nW5hcA:10 a=geJiZMJUClxBifrOFzAA:9 a=gXpFP2xc0C4llxQH-WsA:7 a=5sJV_XRnfGdz9dHxzI2QguUR2xoA:4 a=U8Ie8EnqySEA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=XF7b4UCPwd8A:10 a=CjCVILHARx-hKk0PMpsA:9 a=WTvzalUgD9IeYaLim1IA:7 a=pAK2oV4tgX3muzUeAX615c1yIa4A:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 Message-ID: From: "K2ORS" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 13:11:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.000,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Linux (was Re: [500] GM4SLV Grabber) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01CB_01C88DB0.868D5930" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? ------=_NextPart_000_01CB_01C88DB0.868D5930 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Pat and Wolf for the comments on Linux.=20 I'm hoping we get to a point where there's enough ham radio software that ru= ns directly on Linux without the need for an emulator. Until recently I thought that Microsoft's critics were being unduly harsh bu= t now I've reached a point where I'm just fed-up with them=20 (largely brought about by a bad experience with Vista). 73 Warren ----- Original Message -----=20 From: G4gvw@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:52 AM Subject: Re: LF: Linux (was Re: [500] GM4SLV Grabber) Hi All, A number of us in the UK are currently exploring Linux as a general replac= ement for Messrs gates and Co OS's. The motivations in my case and I suspect many others are various.=20 Firstly there is the need to consider the number of licensed copies of Win= dows (various flavours) needed when you own more than one PC and the associa= ted costs of upgrades etc. Secondly there is the requirement to retain the use of older "legacy" mach= ines which are perfectly serviceable for many tasks but lack the resources r= equired for later flavours of "windblows" Thirdly there are now a number of Linux distros that offer windows- like G= UI environments that make people like me who feel more comfortable than with= command-line interface. Fourthly there seems to be a growing range of open source applications att= ractive to amateur radio and an increasing number of applications designed p= rimarily for windows that are also available to the Linux user community. Fifthly, while the dominance of Microsoft maw well have been a major influ= ence in putting computing power into the hands of so many it's nice to feel=20= that Bill and his mates do not yet rule the world. After all someone once said "In a world of truly open systems who would ne= ed windows and gates?" I currently have Ubuntu running on a 800Mhz machine with 1Ghz ram and all=20= the usual bits, this is complimented by Ubuntu running on a Samsung GT7000 3= 00mhz laptop with 256M ram and an old 200Mhz machine with 96M ram running Pu= ppyLinux. Applications include (except for the Puppy) OpenOffice which compa= res well to MS office for most apps and a range of audio and multimedia stuf= f. Although I have a PC running XPPRO and a laptop running XPMedia centre I=20= doubt if I will ever buy another MS upgrade or product. So, I for one will be very interested in any Linux developments in the gro= up. =20 73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx Qth near Felixstowe, UK ------=_NextPart_000_01CB_01C88DB0.868D5930 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks Pat and Wolf for the comments on Linux.
I'm hoping we get to= a=20 point where there's enough ham radio software that runs directly on Linux=20 without the need for an emulator.
 
Until recently I thought that Microsoft's critics were being unduly har= sh=20 but now I've reached a point where I'm just fed-up with them
(largely brought about by a bad experience with Vista).
 
73 Warren
 
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G4gvw@aol.com <= /DIV>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 11:52=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Linux (was Re: [50= 0]=20 GM4SLV Grabber)

Hi All,
 
A number of us in the UK are currently exploring Linux as a general=20 replacement for Messrs gates and Co OS's.
 
The motivations in my case and I suspect many others are=20 various.
Firstly there is the need to consider the number of licensed copies o= f=20 Windows (various flavours) needed when you own more than one PC and the=20 associated costs of upgrades etc.
Secondly there is the requirement to retain the use of older "legacy"= =20 machines which are perfectly serviceable for many tasks but lack the resou= rces=20 required for later flavours of "windblows"
Thirdly there are now a number of Linux distros that offer windows- l= ike=20 GUI environments that make people like me who feel more comfortable than w= ith=20 command-line interface.
Fourthly there seems to be a growing range of open source application= s=20 attractive to amateur radio and an increasing number of applications desig= ned=20 primarily for windows that are also available to the Linux user=20 community.
Fifthly, while the dominance of Microsoft maw well have been a major=20 influence in putting computing power into the hands of so many it's nice t= o=20 feel that Bill and his mates do not yet rule the world.
 
After all someone once said "In a world of truly open systems who wou= ld=20 need windows and gates?"
 
I currently have Ubuntu running on a 800Mhz machine with 1Ghz ram and= all=20 the usual bits, this is complimented by Ubuntu running on a Samsung GT7000= =20 300mhz laptop with 256M ram and an old 200Mhz machine with 96M ram running= =20 PuppyLinux. Applications include (except for the Puppy) OpenOffice which=20 compares well to MS office for most apps and a range of audio and multimed= ia=20 stuff. Although I have a PC running XPPRO and a laptop running XPMedia cen= tre=20 I doubt if I will ever buy another MS upgrade or product.
 
So, I for one will be very interested in any Linux developments in th= e=20 group.
 
     =20
 
73 de Pat=20 G4GVW es gd dx
Qth near Felixstowe,=20 UK
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