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From: "mal" <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 08:36:33 -0000
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Dave
The fashion today is to avoid morse and the soldering iron. My message did
not say avoid other radio amateurs.
73 de Mal/g3kev

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Towers" <david.towers@ntlworld.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2008 7:38 AM
Subject: Re: LF: CW Skimmer


> mal wrote:
>
>  > The average radio amateur today is an appliance operator and probably
>  > never heard about morse code or a soldering iron. Avoid them both!!
>  > G3KEV
>
> Hi Mal
> how can you know when to avoid a licenced radio amateur, how do you
> describe "average"?
> You do not "see" them but only have a call-sign to go by.
> What are your terms of reference to make such a statement?
>
>   Many of us suffered strokes or worse during our amateur career and
> thus became unable to remember and use CW well enough to "pass a test",
> and thus were barred from the HF bands.
>
> Fortunately this has been corrected and we "so called" Class B licencees
> could enjoy a taste of the HF bands denied to us, not because of lack of
> ability but due to impairments.
> Despite being visually impaired now from stroke induced brain damage, I
> can still use a soldering iron and construct-takes more time and more
> care, but I get there!
>
> CW retention and use is no longer a possibility though!
>
> I operate without causing interference to others and know how to and am
> able to  construct and repair test equipment and modern transceivers.
>
> Does this make me a leper in your eyes?
>
> It matters not to me whether you Mal, or your ilk, avoids me when I
> eventually get onto LF bands, but  I would welcome a more understanding
> attitude from you/them, and less bigoted comments concerning those not
> blessed with your/their abilities.
> Perhaps some died in the wool CW operators should look outside of their
> box before using voice or keyboard and passing judgement!
> dave
> G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
> webpage
> www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* G4gvw@aol.com <mailto:G4gvw@aol.com>
> >     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> >     <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 11:23 PM
> >     *Subject:* Re: LF: CW Skimmer
> >
> >     Actualy I do not agree with that statement. It is only in the
> >     present state of the art that you might say that a machine cannot
> >     read poorly sent morse. It is not so many years ago that the present
> >     state of the art was considered beyond the reach of machines!
> >
> >     It is surely not beyond the wit of man to imagine that a future
> >     generation of machines and their programmes (I hesitate to use the
> >     word software deliberately) might not only decode a data stream
> >     called "morse" but actually interpret its "meaning" using rules
> >     based on language, useage and machine-based artificial intelligence!
> >
> >     In the same way that the modern radio amateur has become an operator
> >     of "black boxes" who is to say that the next generation of Black
> >     Boxes will not become an operator of radio amateurs?
> >
> >     Some would say that this is alraeady the case!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >     73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx
> >     Qth near Felixstowe, UK
> >
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