Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (rly-yb04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.136]) by air-yb03.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINYB34-19647a7602e14b; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:58:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB46-19647a7602e14b; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:57:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JM6V4-0004on-Nk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:57:02 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JM6V3-0004oe-MZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:57:01 +0000 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JM6Uz-0006lD-J3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Feb 2008 18:57:01 +0000 Received: (qmail 2158 invoked from network); 4 Feb 2008 18:56:51 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=cSXumkD/Dkp4ukcXQTPKYzNpgrWIdBqTPb2qVMhbnOfvnABc30RjC2O+HFgJlCDlr+mMpwQfhAIxl+HCFI5rmVmzFyqfcunLLd5G8VeEegYd3hP/rPIFVkFBGcRFZjD6bPzEKchxFBwFcw97wBTp6n6bXbC05epqIQyofOsSc6I= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.16.143 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 4 Feb 2008 18:56:50 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 32wPf6wVM1lry3YYyOR4A7DtPRf0L0gzRFGFCcJM6MTYEPpLgRf_hLpXBWQaozgQW2qQpNC5OlCTEZlOWOHCI.KuRek7wFs72Xzkl089kF9YyCSF X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <001301c8675f$b3a5ca00$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <016101c61d02$12ceca40$2101a8c0@pcroelof> <43CFCE5D.5000504@usa.net> <20060119232216.u1kyilxv57r4scgg@webmail.versatel.de> <43D0258B.2000601@usa.net> <43D027B8.1000300@usa.net> <43E7DF30.2060108@usa.net> <002501c86748$60c727f0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2008 18:56:22 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.356 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Hi Roelof, this was not addressed to me but I feel I can maybe contribute and opinion. I think it all depends on what you are wanting the sound card to do. If you are using it as the "I/Q converter" in an SDR the the best card produces the best results. the vital thing here is the noise level which affects the dynamic range available, then the sampling frequency and timing. Your post tends to suggest that the queries are from people using Spectran to process the audio from a receiver. In this case the achievable dynamic range can be similar but it is not necessary for detecting small signals which are essential buried in the noise from the reciever. I have the internal on-board sound and an PCI M-Audio Delta 44, and I do not think I could detect any difference when using Spectran. More important things are keeping PC noise out of the receiver and ensuring the antenna is the quietest are available to you but providing the highest voltage of wanted signals. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roelof Bakker" To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 4:09 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: Mini Whip and local noise Hello Alberto, Your program Spectran is in wide use amongst NDB chasers. Someone had the following question: >> Does the quality of the sound card influence the decoding or displaying of signals received or it this all done in the Spectran software? Some sound cards are available for $20 and others cost over $250. Will the higher cost sound card produce a better quality of output signal than the cheaper one? If yes, which sound card do you recommend specifically for this application of decodind and displaying NDB signals? << Your input will be much appreciated. 73, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 705 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl