Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (rly-ma08.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.52]) by air-ma08.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMA081-8c44796862b197; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:11:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA086-8c44796862b197; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:11:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JHTBG-00006b-39 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:09:26 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JHTBF-00006S-4G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:09:25 +0000 Received: from bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.241]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JHTBA-0000iA-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Jan 2008 00:09:24 +0000 Received: from BAY124-W31 ([207.46.11.194]) by bay0-omc3-s41.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:09:12 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [202.156.8.13] From: Laurence KL1X To: Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 15:09:12 -0900 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 23 Jan 2008 00:09:12.0998 (UTC) FILETIME=[2F2A0C60:01C85D54] X-Spam-Score: 0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.716 Subject: RE: LF: Low long wires Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ~ X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) "Does anyone else have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded are= as? "...I should have said for the beverage or similar array only. thanks Laurence Singapore ________________________________ From: hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:04:25 -0900 Subject: LF: Low long wires Ive only had partial success in low long wires up in Alaska - but my s/n fai= lure was due to a 33Kv or more power line running parallel underground just=20= a few feet below the array for most of the way - that and the variable speed= drives from the local water pumping station which the power cable supplied. Im going to put "down" or it is "up" a couple in a heavily birch wooded area= in Alaska above moose antler height and they will be insulated off but supp= orted by the trees. Ive just gained another painful acre so will have wires=20= up to 100m in length or so - I have silt sand and ground water at around 12=20= feet in depth close in by a freshish water (ice at the moment) lake. So - question what effect will the trees have decoupling LF signals in this=20= type of medium (?) Z array given the travelling wave aspect? Does anyone els= e have experience against open space wires .v. in wooded areas? On the TX s= ide I see this without a lot of clearing as another large TX loop experienc= e - just too many tall decoupling signal Birch for verticals at the moment. Laurence ________________________________ Climb to the top of the charts! Play the word scramble challenge with star p= ower. Play now! _________________________________________________________________ Shed those extra pounds with MSN and The Biggest Loser! http://biggestloser.msn.com/