Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (rly-mg04.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.110]) by air-mg06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG064-a0d47889643342; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:28:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg04.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG047-a0d47889643342; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:28:21 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JDdaA-0000WC-M4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:27:18 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JDda9-0000W3-VQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:27:18 +0000 Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JDda5-0001NN-N7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 10:27:17 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.23] (helo=13.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JDda4-0006d3-Mn for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:27:12 +0100 Received: from e176248221.adsl.alicedsl.de ([85.176.248.221]:1073 helo=[192.168.0.111]) by 13.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1JDda4-0002HN-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:27:12 +0100 Message-ID: <47889603.9050809@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:27:15 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Wolfgang_B=FCscher?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <88d2415e0801111045t1e31ee78vbaf955f4f2a9f3a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.3 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_IN_BL_SPAMCOP_NET=1.332 Subject: Re: LF: LF Receiver Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Andy, About the SDR-IQ (I'm also a pleased owner of it)... > The only thing it suffers from is not having a clock locked to a > master reference. Needs 66.667MHz and I've just never got round > to making a locked clock yet. But its probably stable enough for QRSS > as it is. I had the same concern when we used it for a 10 GHz radio-astronomy experiment. A simple solution without a PLL: 10 MHz (from reference osc) divided by 3 , then (using analog frequency doublers etc): * 2 * 2 * 5 = 66.66666.. MHz But, especially for LF / MF, the SDR-IQ's clock oscillator is surprisingly stable. Cheers, Wolf DL4YHF . /3 =: 3.33333 66.6666/20 =: 3.33333 > > AGC can be disabled, and is only used for demod anyway, to keep volume > constant. The waterfall display operates independently of the demod > and is always at fixed gain. > > Andy G4JNT > > > On 11/01/2008, *lawrence mayhead* > wrote: > > I have for a long time used a Racal 1792 reciever for QRSS modes > on LF. > This receiver failed recently,and I have been looking for a > replacement receiver. > This search reveals a problem most modern receivers use DSP > techniques > for filtering and the AGC is derived from the filtered signal. > None of the receivers > I have looked at have an AGC OFF facility.This means that if one > of these receivers > is used with ARGO or similar FFT programs a strong signal within > the pass band > will desensitise the Rx. It seems quite possible that a weak > signal could quite > disapear. It also appears that some AGC is applied before the > digital filter so that > signals within the roofing filters bandwith will also produce > de-sensitisation, and this > could be as much as 15kHz away from the tune freq. > Any ideas on receivers not using DSP filtering ? > Or do I look for another R1792 > > 73 Laurie G3AQC > > > > > -- > Andy G4JNT > www.scrbg.org/g4jnt