Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (rly-dd07.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.154]) by air-dd04.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDD043-b88475756d327b; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:57:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd07.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD072-b88475756d327b; Wed, 05 Dec 2007 20:56:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1J05y1-00021c-JU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:55:57 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1J05y0-00021T-EG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:55:56 +0000 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J05xx-0005LY-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:55:56 +0000 Received: (qmail 95488 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2007 01:55:48 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Z6zL2wkBT87/0exqfKEkdDBsXrqmGpLBRBbihu4jNYZrNhSlJeRSTW+9BQ/t/vaRah4YcrGb3Mbwmr/er0soNqSnBPSknVlbSa6L+3ALQc/e37Fe+COHmETujLO7Hjrmb74V3MeBuZ87I0DyZ64ejxjTqObbIl0NParZwZebwSU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@81.131.12.157 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Dec 2007 01:55:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FKDMKuMVM1mkqcf5uvZtCXyNlLN1bIpJYG5HW8R5tjGCAD__QGI7yZ7tZmT4wvWNd3EHvg8ZMA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.503 [269.16.15/1173]); Thu, 06 Dec 2007 01:53:44 +0000 Message-ID: <001301c837aa$d53d6e00$9d0c8351@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000001c8379a$cbf54800$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 01:53:43 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group, Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The 1/2-space DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient for field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier. Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an "open field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna, which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the effect of the site on antenna performance. The /P location is near Newgate Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and really is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the pictures of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago! A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to be close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5 ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly identical. Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna on 136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results by the weekend. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lubomír Bobalík" To: Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: LF: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8 > > Hallo Mike and All! > I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The > signal is growing stronger. > > 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS >