Return-Path: Received: from rly-da05.mx.aol.com (rly-da05.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.79]) by air-da07.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA073-a6a4757f89e373; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:27:08 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da05.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA052-a6a4757f89e373; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 08:26:57 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1J0Gj5-0003G5-TX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:25:15 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1J0Gj5-0003Fw-2z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:25:15 +0000 Received: from smtp2.wanadoo.co.uk ([193.252.22.157] helo=smtp2.freeserve.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1J0Gj1-00043W-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 06 Dec 2007 13:25:15 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 24D057000093 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:25:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.42.136]) by mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id D327F700008D for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2007 14:25:05 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20071206132505864.D327F700008D@mwinf3108.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <000701c8380b$748cf650$0d00000a@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <000001c8379a$cbf54800$8700a8c0@rtv5f9d8dfdf44> <001301c837aa$d53d6e00$9d0c8351@w4o8m9> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 13:25:12 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n Ok Jim, Looks like the /P qth is at IO91WR ?, or very close , Intresting signal=20 last night as the very little qsb , fine on the rain, well at least the=20 ground was constantly damp .. I find, if i have a shower of rain, i have to=20 re-tune .... If your going to run on 137 assume you are mains powerd ? Graham . ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 1:53 AM Subject: LF: Re: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8 > Dear Lubos, Mike, Graham, LF Group, > > Thanks for the reports - I was doing some antenna tests, as part of the > programme in my Special Research Permit application for 500k. The=20 > 1/2-space > DFCW setting is a bit difficult to read on the screen, but is convenient=20 > for > field strength measurement since there are only short gaps in the carrier. > > Briefly, the idea was to set up a replica of my home QTH antenna in an=20 > "open > field" location, and compare the performance with the original antenna, > which is surrounded by trees, etc. in order to get some figures for the > effect of the site on antenna performance. The /P location is near=20 > Newgate > Street, a village about 4km east of my home QTH in Hertfordshire, and=20 > really > is an open field, belonging to one of my relatives. Actually, as the rain > keeps coming down, it is starting to remind me more and more of the=20 > pictures > of the Scarborough reef expedition in Radcom a little while ago! > > A quick look at the figures from FS measurements and loss resistance > measurements looks quite interesting so far. The calculated ERP seems to=20 > be > close to the measured figure, so not much "site loss", and the loss > resistance at 500k is about 1/3 of that of the original antenna - only 8.5 > ohms. This means the "open field" antenna is about 6 times as efficient as > my home QTH antenna at 500k, although the antennas themselves are nearly > identical. > > Weather/circumstances/Murphy permitting, I hope to test the same antenna=20 > on > 136k tomorrow evening, and will hopefully have some more detailed results=20 > by > the weekend. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lubom=EDr Bobal=EDk" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:58 PM > Subject: LF: [500] RE: M0BMU/P on 503.8 > > >> >> Hallo Mike and All! >> I captured DFCW signal on 503800kHz as you can see on the snapshot. The >> signal is growing stronger. >> >> 73 from Lubos, OK2BVG, JN88KS >> > > > > > > --=20 > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.14/1172 - Release Date:=20 > 12/5/2007 08:41 > >=20