Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (rly-yc06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.149]) by air-yc03.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINYC32-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:17 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc06.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC62-6e8472981a42fa; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 03:35:01 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VM-T9 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1InUZa-0007VD-9w for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1InUZW-00053w-HL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:38 +0000 Received: (qmail 9771 invoked from network); 1 Nov 2007 07:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.147.85.26 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Nov 2007 07:34:28 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: E_H8AEgVM1msM.KiaN.WfFR2Qiq4HpkkEB5HDG5mXCyiFd3MOTLk6Bm5HIyZYE6mqZ7IOWVDFM_Oa89.3RR8Fgmy8OrZWiHDXdpEwI23nhRNXuaD From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 01 Nov 2007 07:34:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <472981A1.3178.3C338F@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> References: <001c01c81c0b$ef981a80$2201a8c0@PC2>, <47297997.1208.1CCA4C@dave.davesergeant.com>, <47297BBA.4040104@yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.138 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz report Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On 1 Nov 2007 at 2:09, WE0H wrote: > Dave, > > How many & what length radials do you have under that vertical? > > Mike > WE0H > WD2XSH/16 > > > Dave Sergeant wrote: > ... > > So my only problem is that most people can't hear me! But that is > > down to the sand below the lawn and the corresponding astronomic > > earth resistance. Only thing I can do there is to move!... 73 Dave > > G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com > With the back garden being only 45ft x 22ft radials, regardless of their number, are pretty ineffective on MF. Over the years I have tried all sorts of things, and there is quite a lot of wire buried under the lawn and a few earth spikes. I have concluded that whatever I do it is a losing battle. You can find details of my setup at http://www.davesergeant.com/mf/ 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com