Return-Path: Received: from rly-me07.mx.aol.com (rly-me07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.41]) by air-me02.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINME022-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me07.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME073-9c7472b80812c6; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 15:54:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006ee-I2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Io2Zr-0006eV-1l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Io2Zp-0007AH-8U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Nov 2007 19:53:11 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB969DA4D9 for ; Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 19:52:42 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071102195242.1f285887@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> References: <000701c81d37$e15303e0$0ae4fc3e@g3kev> <005601c81d75$9b285530$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz NoV Clarification Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Thanks John! everyone assumed it was okay but it's good to hear it officially. Now we can re-assure the stations in other countries that they can work us cross-band. ....on with the good work! Cheers, John GM4SLV On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 17:27:07 -0000 "John W Gould" wrote: > Following some excellent x-band QSOs by some NoV holders I've been > asked if clarification can be given as to whether this is appropriate > given the a particular clause in the 500kHz NoV's Terms & > Conditions. This issue is that clause h) in the NoV states that > "This Notice of Variation is restricted for the Research for which it > is issued and does not apply to routine messages and signals for > which the existing terms conditions and limitations of the Licence > shall apply." > > I've checked with Ofcom and the position is that a standard Special > Research Permit NoV was used for issuing 500kHz NoVs and that > therefore contained the clause h) wording. This clause is really > meant to cover conditions that might apply when, for example, an SRP > NoV is issued to allow a power level of 32dBW for EME experiments on > a stated band/frequency. Such an NoV is issued for that purpose and > does not give blanket permission to run that power level on any other > bands, when "... the existing terms conditions and limitations of the > Licence shall apply" Thus, for 500kHz operating the T&Cs of the SRP > NoV must be observed for that band only and it does not "vary" the > T&Cs of Section 2 of the licence which allows operation on bands > stated in the appropriate schedule. > > If my explanation above isn't entirely clear, the simple answer is > that doing x-band QSOs is OK as long as they are in someway related > to the "research" on which you sought your NoV. Thus, for 99.9% of > cases it is unlikely to be an issue. I trust that our overseas > friends are also content with that this little piece of British > bureaucracy makes their involvement "legal" depending of course on > the small print in their licence! > > 73 John, G3WKL > RSGB HF Manager > > > > -- John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland