Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (rly-mf09.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.179]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF098-9824733789f377; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:59:17 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESW-0003eC-Ad for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:40 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IqESU-0003e3-9n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:38 +0000 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IqESP-0003ln-Br for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:58:36 +0000 Received: (qmail 15276 invoked from network); 8 Nov 2007 20:10:05 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=iICOSlf3WkekmMOTcvAsGgsw2IthRJ3WmpLwlDDvOZhjv46uF21IwMe4kqB8smuTwLSer6jOMMkHT7UaWBkW/pFyBl9AYwbnVY308419s1UwPn9QZ3+FkiFF+4u89dJk2uLqDUCtfy4ch0zmUO+iU0M9NBhE/T8U2B8xaI8HM04= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.66.121 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Nov 2007 20:10:04 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: LwRfX2oVM1nz5nfebLJ3FabE2KHdjS1QbF1HSm19h.rU.2T1e0B3qzaTQI81im6czk_1EZYzygM5xyCfrtx7Hpb5n0T7xiwQ3.ekgq6oYt4.4GKg Message-ID: <009c01c82243$62914560$0900a8c0@Lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <47335769.5010202@freenet.de> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2007 20:10:15 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.4 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.366 Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Hi Andy I never remember hearing anyone detecting a resonance that high. the first is about 7.8Hz (from memory) and there are "harmonics" at approx 8Hz intervals....only they are not exact multiples, Only in the very quietest locations can you detect peaks above 30Hz. There is unfortunaely a lot of what Renato calls Pseudo-science attracted to phenomena like this. If we manage to get his book published in English it is a good read. Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Talbot" To: Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 7:48 PM Subject: Re: LF: ULF / ELF monitoring station in Italy Fascinating - just had to go and look-up Schumann resonances in Wikipedia. The article there says that the waveguide has a harmonic response at 59.4Hz, and gets excited by the US power grid. In which case I would have thought it ought to be visible, but there is nothing on the trace. Also, what looks like data at 80Hz - could that be a ULF submarine transmission? Those have been observed, and there used to be a website somwhere that showed slow FSK in the ULF region, believed to be from a Russian transmitter. Andy G4JNT On 08/11/2007, Wolfgang Büscher wrote: > Greetings all, > > Not LF or MF, but this may be interesting for some group members: > Renato (IK1QFK) has set up a new automated ULF / ELF monitoring station : > > http://www.vlf.it/livedata.html > > It measures seismic (mechanical) events, the E-field, and the H-field > (the latter with radio direction finding). > It's amazing how clear the first few Schumann resonances can be seen in > the E-field spectrogram. > > Cheers, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > >