Return-Path: Received: from rly-xa03.mx.aol.com (rly-xa03.mail.aol.com [172.20.64.39]) by air-xa04.mail.aol.com (v119.12) with ESMTP id MAILINXA44-634715db9d17d; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:53:49 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-xa03.mx.aol.com (v119.12) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINXA39-634715db9d17d; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 05:53:35 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ii5Zy-0003L7-Q6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:52:42 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ii5Zy-0003Ky-A4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:52:42 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ii5Zv-0005SW-Ph for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:52:42 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [192.168.1.4]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECCEDDA4D8 for ; Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:52:31 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4715DB99.5020900@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2007 10:53:29 +0100 From: John GM4SLV User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: 500 at its best last night...! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello LF, A good night on 500, with several people making many first class QSOs on CW - including my first MF QSO with Colin G3VTT, which was a great thrill. I eventually had to retire to bed though! I sent my "beacon" (or "initial call" - hi!) signal overnight to give something for others to hear. In the past few days I've received reports from several stations, 2 of them have been new to 500 listening, enthusing about hearing something on 500. Without the "pseudo-beacons" they'd tune right past, assuming the band was dead. Now they know that some good work is going on here, will come back to hear real QSOs and......might even get involved! This is a "very good thing"!! This morning I received a very nice email from a listener in Scandinavia, extracts of which I'll quote below:- >> You do a great job guys, keep the good signals coming on 500! >> NOV licensees can't make QSO's 24/7/365 so that there would be >> something on the air to monitor for the others without a key to >> grab. On the overnight "beacons" : >> I find it great that other people can listen in when they have time >> for it and condx happens to show it's shiny side. >> As opposed to 505.1 one may be rewarded with hearing some real >> action too from time to time. It's not just about UK-UK QSO's in >> the end. The whole Europe is listening for your signals This type of message makes it all worthwhile for me. He is typical of most people... they like to hear real QSOs, but are glad of ANY signal on the band that may be there when they get a few minutes in the shack. It is also a reminder that we are in a very special position in the UK, and our use of the band is of great interest to other European countries too. Let's give them something to listen out for....! Another take on "beacons".... My grabber is used by many people - to see the state of the band, or to check their own signals. By sending a long "initial call" (or "beacon") they can follow the signal here as it rises and falls in the QSB. This allows for near-real time propagation experiments when no QSO partner can be found. Of course a QSO would add greatly to the value, as questions can be asked and answered and changes to power etc. made, but we can't always be as lucky as we were last night! Real "DX" station in VE and W are also trying to hear us, to see what the chances of transatlantic working would be given better power and wider availability of access. A publicized long "initial call" is a great assistance to them. They can listen at the best time for propagation (ie when we're all in bed!) and will know what frequency to concentrate on. We can all argue over the legal niceties of "beacons", as applied to our activities, but where there's good and valuable work to be done and enthusiastic people to do it there's always a way, within the confines of the current rules. It just depends on how you interpret them ;-) A great night on 500. QSOs galore and beneficial effects from the "beacons" too. The best of both worlds surely? I'll end with this... One email received this morning from another new 500 listener in GM-land, reporting my "beacon" said: >> Good luck, true Amateur Radio. What more can I say? Keep up the good work guys. Best regards, John GM4SLV