Return-Path: Received: from rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (rly-yc04.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.147]) by air-yc04.mail.aol.com (v119.12) with ESMTP id MAILINYC42-1d1471260741df; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:31:41 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yc04.mail.aol.com (v119.12) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYC45-1d1471260741df; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 14:31:18 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Ih8F5-00080u-4b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:31:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Ih8F4-00080l-OG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:31:10 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Ih8Ez-00018O-E9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:31:10 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E57EDA4DD for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:30:32 +0100 (BST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:30:31 +0100 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20071014193031.07a5ae31@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <338459.59210.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <000701c80e86$d700cea0$48e4fc3e@g3kev> <338459.59210.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: MF acty Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : On Sun, 14 Oct 2007 18:58:09 +0100 (BST) Peter March wrote: > Here here. > > I was hoping to develop my cw skills on 500, but perpetual beacons > mean no contacts so don't listen much any more. Sad eh? > 73 petefmt I've just been calling CQ, in CW, at speeds between 10WPM and 35WPM, for almost 2 hours. Had a difficult QSO with GI3PDN at 1650UTC - severe QSB. Other than that heard nil. Daylight conditions, can't expect much more. At least I was having a go. On a positive note---- I have, though, over the course of the last 2 months had over 50 QSOs, all in CW, all hand sent, all at probably no more than 15WPM due to the conditions, with at least 9 different stations, at ranges of between 500 and 1040km. I still don't understand the moans of "perpetual beacons". A beacon at least means there's a signal on the band that might be of use to someone. Often radiated by a station that is also an active "QSO maker". Better a beacon than an empty band entirely. I only put a CW beacon on if I haven't the time to sit calling CQ, but want to provide something for the greater good. I have had very nice emails from stations in Finland, Czech, Germany, France, Norway and others enthusing over hearing a CW signal on 500kHz. I couldn't possibly have done that purely from live QSOs, although I have also had mp3s sent to me from Finland of real QSOs that have been heard over there too. There probably are some stations that will only ever be active as beacons, but that's often due to very difficult local receiving conditions. At least they're doing something positive though, rather than sitting on the sidelines with furrowed brows. Dust off your key, call CQ, work someone? I understand there are only around 30 NoV holders. All running very low power. It's hardly surprising the QSO rate is low. Don't assume though that it's zero! Cheers, John GM4SLV IP90gg Clousta, Shetland.