X-GM-THRID: 1246846798684106604 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.86.2.20 with SMTP id 20cs32487fgb; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 05:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.32.13 with SMTP id k13mr1304789ugj.1189169312476; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e23si3702917ugd.2007.09.07.05.48.23; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 05:48:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=193.82.116.20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ITd8l-0008Qa-Kq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:40:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ITd8l-0008QR-7y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:40:51 +0100 Received: from smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ITd8g-0003Vo-J6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:40:51 +0100 Received: from PCRoelof (ndb.demon.nl [82.161.81.65]) by smtp-vbr16.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id l87CeaQZ090339 for ; Fri, 7 Sep 2007 14:40:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roelof@ndb.demon.nl) Message-ID: <000a01c7f14c$459e76d0$2101a8c0@PCRoelof> From: "Roelof Bakker" To: References: <7.0.1.0.1.20070907191758.019b2b98@xtra.co.nz> Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 12:40:23 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: BOG - Beverage on the Ground Content-Type: text/plain; format="flowed"; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type="original" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 569 Hello John, I don't know if these are available at your location, but some NDB-chasers achieve excellent results using fences. I have tried this myself on a 5000 feet long fence once and the results were spectacular, though the beamwidth was very narrow. I used a 9:1 rf-transformer and a simple ground stake. Many MW DX-ers use BOGs and report excellent results You may find this story interesting: http://www.dxing.info/dxpeditions/easter_island_2007.dx Best regards, Roelof Bakker, pa0rdt -- Mijn Postvak In wordt beschermd door SPAMfighter. 328 spam-mails zijn er tot op heden geblokkeerd. Download de gratis SPAMfighter via deze link: http://www.spamfighter.com/lnl