X-GM-THRID: 1243583819375807210 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs139258wxb; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 07:04:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.156.6 with SMTP id d6mr202250hue.1185977042415; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k5si3913976nfh.2007.08.01.07.03.57; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 07:04:02 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IGEjn-0001JC-J6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:59:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IGEjn-0001J3-1R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:59:43 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IGEjm-0003O6-1c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 14:59:43 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F6FDA4E3 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:59:42 +0100 (BST) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:59:42 +0100 (BST) From: John GM4SLV X-X-Sender: gm4slv@lurcher.twatt.local To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <00a001c7d43c$f4180690$0a7ee150@o> Message-ID: References: <005001c7d3fe$e4786d80$6400a8c0@oem17oeylz9on8> <001901c7d42b$e6fbeaa0$86048351@w4o8m9> <00a001c7d43c$f4180690$0a7ee150@o> X-Mailer: PC-Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: newbie help Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2685 Rog, That's an interesting idea - I've never thought of trying a digital Cap meter. I must try it on the new antenna - and compare it to my homebrew RF bridge, calculations and - more telling - to the valuse of L I eventually need to resonate it. John GM4SLV On Wed, 1 Aug 2007, GW3UEP wrote: > Re ant cap: you can use a DMM [Rapid 328] to gnd - I use 1000pF across > its terminals to decouple RF for a stable reading. Simply subtract its > value. 73, Rog. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: James Moritz > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 12:05 PM > Subject: LF: Re: newbie help > > > Dear Paul, > > In a nutshell: > > - You can tune up more or less any bit of wire for reasonable results > on 500kHz. For best results, make it as high up as possible, and > secondarily as long as possible. An HF long wire, or dipole with > feeders strapped would be fine. > > -Work out the capacitance of the wire (see formulas on ON7YD's > antennas pages). and calculate the inductance for resonance around > 502.5kHz. For most HF-sized wire antennas, this will be of the order > of 100s of uH. The resulting coil is