X-GM-THRID: 1243530832131854599 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs110321wxb; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.88.17 with SMTP id q17mr908898ugl.1185923417352; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d25si76965nfh.2007.07.31.16.10.10; Tue, 31 Jul 2007 16:10:17 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IG0nK-00057a-1P for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:06:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IG0nJ-00057R-Fb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:06:25 +0100 Received: from smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.68]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IG0nI-0007dI-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:06:25 +0100 Received: (qmail 2188 invoked from network); 31 Jul 2007 23:06:18 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=wvJV57SNrztXefKQ0fl3ebFIGGhkTWmLGhZeQWMigFNcfBlYJg+D3GgvkDscrukOGVHmLeWUNP9T8rK728IWYhGcQ85y1iDt41+kTSybptj0gc2lVWkkzrUzs9E9kZyaooEJL/UdlkWSulwN0HGlDCJE1SXQj1PQaM/rDyA+UtU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.26.253 with login) by smtp808.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Jul 2007 23:06:17 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8kPco_gVM1nw4Nj_NTcUeoXSa4uIfjbx4P_W_bZEZyrqd6wM Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.476 [269.11.0/927]); Wed, 01 Aug 2007 00:05:48 +0100 Message-ID: <004301c7d3c7$5515e780$fd1a7ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <006b01c7d3ba$78370d00$0300a8c0@lark> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 00:05:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.168 Subject: LF: Re: 500 Permit Allocation conditions / Beacon reports Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1576 Dear LF Group, Thanks for the reports on the beacon signal. Graham - the CW identifier was "test de M0BMU IO91VR". I support wholeheartedly G3NYK's opinion re the 500kHz allocation - I have been becoming increasingly baffled by the arguments about band plans, about which mode not to use, and the supposed congestion on 500kHz. According to G3XIZ's list, there are about 25 stations active on the band; with 3kHz bandwidth, that gives us 120Hz each. It would be perfectly technically feasible, without great expense or complexity, for all these stations to transmit CW signals simultaneously without excessive mutual interference - using the narrower-band modes like QRSS would allow much greater numbers of course. Also remember 500kHz is not an amateur band as such - it is available only to those with the appropriate "special research permit" NoV, which says that the band is for the purpose of conducting "special research", as detailed in the applications we made. The NoVs expire in March next year, and if 500kHz is to have a future, this research must have produced at least some preliminary results that are of interest to Ofcom by then. I don't suppose Ofcom are expecting revolutions in radio communications, but CW communications on 500kHz has been going on for many decades and can hardly be considered an experiment in the overall field of radio, and I can't see they will be that impressed by claiming 3 countries towards the 500kHz DXCC either. The main objective of operating on 500kHz needs to be experimental - any QSOs resulting should probably be considered a spin-off of the experimental activity. I hope people will go ahead and create a bit more bedlam on 500kHz, provided it is constructive bedlam... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU