X-GM-THRID: 1244962073481988614 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.25.11 with SMTP id 11cs470731wxy; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:19:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr2368318ugj.1187288354759; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h7si5721746nfh.2007.08.16.11.19.07; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 11:19:14 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) client-ip=193.82.116.20; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) smtp.mail=owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ILjsv-00085X-2s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:15:53 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ILjsu-00085O-KA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:15:52 +0100 Received: from rutherford.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.142]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ILjsr-00036H-Te for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:15:52 +0100 Received: from [82.68.18.174] (helo=acer5gi5q0ubzj) by rutherford.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1ILjsr-0001uc-02 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:15:49 +0000 From: "John W Gould" To: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:16:42 +0100 Message-ID: <003101c7e031$99af2480$0b01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal X-Originating-Rutherford-IP: [82.68.18.174] X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Summary reports from typical urban station... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 235 I've had an extremely detailed reply (direct) from John, GM4SLV, that = will greatly help me draft a decent paper for the Ofcom meeting. However, as John points out his experience is one that represents a station in a = quiet radio location. To give a more balanced view it would be useful to have = a report from one or two stations who can provide some examples of = estimated (or measured) ERP levels, CW signal reports, RX and Aerial details from = a typical urban location where the noise level is likely to be much higher = and environmental factors possibly reduce the actual ERP in the far field. Direct e-mails might be best, to save clogging up the reflector, as you = can then add some wav files, if you have them. 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager g3wkl@btinternet.com