X-GM-THRID: 1241352783323229053 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs616666hue; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.183.19 with SMTP id g19mr6194444buf.1183913767649; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k9si10450118nfh.2007.07.08.09.56.01; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 09:56:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I7Zwn-0006Yl-9h for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:49:21 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I7Zwm-0006Yc-Iy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:49:20 +0100 Received: from imo-d23.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.137]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I7Zwj-0000BU-TS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 08 Jul 2007 17:49:20 +0100 Received: from ColePe@aol.com by imo-d23.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id l.c3a.16222792 (29679) for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:49:06 -0400 (EDT) From: ColePe@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2007 12:49:05 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5022 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: [500] 502 kHz test from G3JFS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1183913345" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1023 -------------------------------1183913345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Dave, Thanks for your e-mail. Its nice to get a report, even a local one, as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any reponse that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of time from Plymouth. When considering the very few stations I have heard at workable strength, and more so on the ones that I can't hear or even detect on spectran, I am convinced that Dartmoor and the hilly ground around my qth have a very serious effect on 500 kHz propagation. So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have worked and the loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and GW4HXO in daylight. The path to both of these stations is relatively clear as it passes along the Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain of western Dartmoor. G3OLB is relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a straight line, and is readable in day time although weak at times. I was quite surprised when G3AQC called me after my contact with Tom as it was in the afternoon and he was a good 559. The route to Chichester, about 150 miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives an idea of the possibilies over a good path. G3VTT was active at the same time as G3AQC but I could not find a trace of his signal on spectran. Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies from 501.34 - 503.86 kHz. Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one day. 73 Peter, G3JFS In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time, ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes: Hi, Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF, I've just got back from a few days holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread e-mails from the LF reflector when I got home today...). I heard your QSO with Tom, G3OLB, and then your QSO with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 on a 1.8m tuned loop, Tom was 539 and Laurie was 559. I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode several times. The RX set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I seemed the hear you on a different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one occasion at 2210 hours local on the 4th July. Do you actually have more than one TX frequency, or is my "Driftomatic" RX telling me fibs? The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT calling CQ on 4th July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's callsign during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I only heard it once. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Dave Sergeant Sent: 30 June 2007 16:56 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 kHz test from G3JFS -------------------------------1183913345 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dave,
 
Thanks for your e-mail.  Its nice to get a report, even a local on= e,=20 as I have put out so many tests and calls in recent weeks without any=20 reponse that I am beginning to think 500 kHz is rather a waste of time=20= from=20 Plymouth.  When considering the very few stations I have heard at worka= ble=20 strength, and more so on the ones that I can't hear or even detect on spectr= an,=20 I am convinced that Dartmoor and the hilly ground around my qth have a very=20 serious effect on 500 kHz propagation.
So far Tom and Laurie are the only stations I have worked and= the=20 loudest signals I have heard have been from GI4DPE after dark and GW4HXO in=20 daylight.  The path to both of these stations is relatively clear as it= =20 passes along the Tamar valley and over the less rugged terrain of weste= rn=20 Dartmoor.  G3OLB is relatively local, maybe 40 miles in a straight line= ,=20 and is readable in day time although weak at times. I was quite=20 surprised when G3AQC called me after my contact with Tom as it was in the=20 afternoon and he was a good 559.  The route to Chichester, about 150=20 miles, is mostly along the coast and this gives an idea of the possibil= ies=20 over a good path.  G3VTT was active at the same time as G3AQC but=20= I=20 could not find a trace of his signal on spectran.
 
Your rx is ok Dave - I have 8 crystals covering frequencies from=20 501.34 - 503.86 kHz.
 
Look forward to getting a report from your home qth one day.
 
73 Peter, G3JFS
 
 
In a message dated 07/07/2007 22:08:02 Greenwich Standard Time,=20 ganymede444@btopenworld.com writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Hi,=20 Peter, Tom, Laurie, Colin, LF,

I've just got back from a few days=20 holiday in Dartmouth, Devon (235 unread
e-mails from the LF reflector w= hen=20 I got home today...). I heard your QSO
with Tom, G3OLB, and then your Q= SO=20 with Laurie G3AQC. You were 579 on a 1.8m
tuned loop, Tom was 539 and=20 Laurie was 559.

I have also subsequently heard you in beacon mode=20 several times. The RX
set-up at the holiday QTH is really crummy, but I= =20 seemed the hear you on a
different frequency nearer to 503.0 kHz on one= =20 occasion at 2210 hours local
on the 4th July. Do you actually have more= =20 than one TX frequency, or is my
"Driftomatic" RX telling me=20 fibs?

The only other confirmed station I heard was Colin G3VTT call= ing=20 CQ on 4th
July at 2210hrs local at RST 539. I think I heard Jim M0BMU's= =20 callsign
during the evening of 3rd July around 2245 hours local, but I=20= only=20 heard it
once.

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM

-----Original=20 Message-----
From:=20 owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshe= ep.org]On=20 Behalf Of Dave Sergeant
Sent: 30 June 2007 16:56
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: 502 kHz test from=20 G3JFS

 
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