X-GM-THRID: 1242337665101963131 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs423514hue; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr1990181bud.1184849798179; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id c14si1975533nfi.2007.07.19.05.56.33; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:56:38 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IBVTz-0003od-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:51:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IBVTy-0003oU-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:51:50 +0100 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IBVTx-0004nh-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:51:50 +0100 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE787DA5F3 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:51:43 +0100 (BST) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:51:43 +0100 (BST) From: John GM4SLV X-X-Sender: gm4slv@lurcher.twatt.local To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <469F438D.20840.FD5DF0@dave.davesergeant.com> Message-ID: References: , <469F438D.20840.FD5DF0@dave.davesergeant.com> X-Mailer: PC-Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.038,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 v 136 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 906 On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Dave Sergeant wrote: > On 19 Jul 2007 at 9:56, John GM4SLV wrote: > > > Can anyone give me a clue as to how long OFCOM/RSGB take to process > > the SRP applications. I posted mine on Wed 4th July, so it's been 2 > > weeks and counting. > > Mine came back within just a few days, but that was back in April. > That's interesting! Thanks Dave. I wonder if at the beginning they handled applications as they arrived but now they're "batch processing" once a week or fortnight? > Let us use it for real experimentation rather than one or two people > transmitting (probably nowhere near the shack) and the rest just > licenced listeners. Fair enough comment Dave. There's no point getting a NOV and building TX equiment if all you can hear is beacons and there's no-one to talk to. When there's activity at reasonable signal strength I'd agree that it's best not to run beacons. Unfortunately over most of the country this isn't the case. Perhaps beaconing should be left to those stations either running very low power or geographically remote from the centre of activity where they aren't going to be a nuisance to others wanting to have QSOs and have wide-ish filters? (I've just made a 100Hz AF filter because the AR7030 is a bit wide at 1.3kHz, but haven't had a chance to try it out yet.) The "band" is so narrow at 3kHz that once local station density increases to a good level there isn't the space for beacons to fit alongside "real live" QSOs, and therefore there's no need for them, as long as there's activity from the stations that are there. For the rest of us who are out on a limb (I know I'm a bit of an extreme case!) then just being able to hear a signal is encouraging, whether it's a beacon, QRSS or (best all round) a 2 way CW QSO. As a progress report, I now have a 750uH - 1.05mH variometer sitting on the bench at work after a lunchtime tinkering session. That range should be enough to resonate my inverted L. All that remains is a matching transformer, although initial measurements with a homebrew RF bridge show the antenna R to be about 50-80 ohms, so might match well enough without. GPO key is poised and ready to go. Now all is in the lap of OFCOM.... Cheers, John 'SLV -- G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214 Member : RSGB, ARRL Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org