X-GM-THRID: 1242667483028580903 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs569010hue; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr3334355ugj.1185100062371; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7si16050292nfh.2007.07.22.03.27.39; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 03:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ICYbS-0005V8-Sf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:23:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ICYbS-0005Uz-A3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:23:54 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ICYbR-00063r-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:23:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 62760 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2007 10:23:47 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=6gPGnpBZ8XYN5EvZWayA2wXnr62f6RjuqqhfMDZILs4MfIeTI3WoEJbCHMnAvatnHXRkwv1VtlE69cIES9yzOsZBlHalz1OyjN8vekEEwQ2sqC1iNg23wD6kumbqsGM7Vx32+xZ3SbeBjukM2W+yYtCFMDy9/xHs9Bog/2u/iRU= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.127.129 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 22 Jul 2007 10:23:47 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: uryeqgsVM1nl2B8cVOW4BKi1bXEC9LvD5fH23NLugi_ZcEDEF0ESaXSUNoNI796dLB8TSU1onw-- From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 11:24:05 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20070722092258.1e9dfebe@lurcher.twatt.local> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.128 Subject: LF: [500] : 500kHz temporarily QRT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 583 Hi, John, LF. A single-ended PA with one IRF150 should be able to give you 25 watts with no problem. You only get to blow the FETS up one at a time, as well! I use a single IRF540 in a modified DF3LP design running at 13.6v, and it stays quite cool. I jacked up the supply to 15 volts, and briefly got 45 watts into 50 ohms until the FET popped. Like the IRF150, it is rated at 100v, and the rule-of-thumb is keep the supply below one-sixth of the maximum rating of the device to avoid unpleasant early demise and emission of "technical smoke"! I haven't used the IRF150 personally, but from the spec it looks like a tough old FET with a high current rating. Watch the supply voltage, and it should be fine. The basic DF3LP design has been modified with a tapped output transformer to give stepped power settings, and with the usual 2-section LPF the second harmonic is about 40 dB down. The third harmonic is not measureable. Gary G3WGT uses a similar single-ended design. I can send-you a scan (hand-drawn) of the curcuit if you like. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John GM4SLV Sent: 22 July 2007 09:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500kHz temporarily QRT Hello gang, Thanks for looking for my QRSS last night. Obviously yesterday was not to be the day! Had 2 QSOs with Mal 'KEV and a signal report from GM4JYB on Dunnet Head, so at least some RF is radiating. I was hoping for a few hours during peak darkness to have try last night but that was scuppered by my own clumsiness! My TX uses a VFO running at 8MHz divided by 16. The VFO is stabilized by a huff/puff circuit and during testing had proved to be rock solid. I've run QRSS-10 at 15W into test load overnight and the frequency hasn't varied by 1Hz. To increase the TX power to that necessary to achieve my ERP target, which calculation suggests needs 0.7A RF, I fed the PA section with a variable 0-60V PSU. At 20V I achieved 25W and 0.7A RF. Fine and dandy. Later in the day I noticed that the VFO was not staying locked when in TX mode, and once it unlocked it stayed slowly free falling until the huff/puff circuit was re-set. I found at 10w or so out that it was stable. I guess there's RF getting in somewhere and upsetting it. I put in lots of extra decoupling and clamp-on ferrites but to no avail. The VFO itself is in a screened box of PCB material, but the huff/puff is open. I'll rebuild the two circuits into one eddystone box... During the investigation into the drifting VFO I inadvertantly over stressed the MOSFETs in the PA (over volts) and turned them into permanently ON switches. No spares!! I was thinking of a redesign anyway, so I'll take this opportunity to do that. I expect to be back on the air in a day or so. Jim 'BMU's design uses IRF520/IRF9520 complementary pair to acheive push pull from a single phase drive. I think I'll go the old way and use bi-phase drive and a "normal" pair of N-Channel FETs. I have a ready supply of IRF150 (or BUZ24) which are TO3 cased HEXFETs that we use at work in 28 volt 20amp SMPSUs. These are fed with 50V DC and switch regulate to 28V so I guess they should handle the volts/current to get 25W at 500kHz? Does anyone have any experience of the devices? Sorry to have appeared and disappeared so rapidly. That'll teach me to have enough spares for the PA FETs! Cheers, John GM4SLV