X-GM-THRID: 1241896484409645723 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs148081hue; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.189.6 with SMTP id m6mr2690253buf.1184364781066; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 2si13918153nfv.2007.07.13.15.12.57; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:13:01 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I9TJG-00058f-FV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:22 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I9TJF-00058W-6p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:21 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I9TJD-0000jq-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:21 +0100 Received: (qmail 29890 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2007 22:08:14 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To:Importance; b=XC7fhOVUbttQlzrXRZI/YHqSfonkpzVvfjlFEDqZ0zEBG2zDLKk1GrMCrsazAtaExmkrfWvxq+40cHiul4BbQe02iGp6LbwHsV875RuWYxcMihbbxCmt/fRy4Y9nRvGhvY8RTyB2PXPuL7SGG9eBlQcIlq4EZp2UiONKHDcuiTs= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@81.158.130.217 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jul 2007 22:08:13 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: fLLlINoVM1n1s.bRn1HpRPnUOWWGuHVpoSgcI6o.YP3dIq8XrF4Beya_bYIVIiE8eT__y.vdGXu5nILBm5bOa94lF7RmlfdDPo9ieYs1SWp4.aX5 From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 23:08:37 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <20070713225205.2cec3a03@lurcher.twatt.local> Importance: Normal DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: [500] 500KHz signals in Shetland Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2827 Hi, John, LF It sounds like you're making good progress. I looked up your QTH on a locator map last night - it's nearly a thousand kilometers from here...serious DX for 500 kHz! Your RX might benefit from having a tuned pre-amp in front to add a bit of extra gain and selectivity. I'm using a design with a J-310 FET, taken from G3YXM's LF web-pages. IF transformers robbed from junked transistor portables are ideal for the purpose. If you need a QRSS beacon signal while you're tweaking you antenna/RX, drop me an e-mail via the reflector or direct. I would think that evenings would be best for these sort of distances, but who knows? We're all still trying to understand how the band works, especially over long-ish distances. 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM Nr Windsor SE England. -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John GM4SLV Sent: 13 July 2007 22:52 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: 500KHz signals in Shetland Hi all, A brief update from the far north. I've now got a working TX and I'm waiting for my NOV to arrive. I built a version of the recently published design by Jim M0BMU, although not using his ceramic oscillator. My version uses an VFO that I'd previously built for a phasing RX. I moved it from 40m to 8MHz, and divided by 16 to get 500kHz. It has a huff/puff stabilizer, and I'd already gone to great lengths to get the VFO reasonably stable without the huff/puff. With the stabilizer in use I've found I can transmit (into load) for > 10 hours of constant carrier and the output frequency stays constant, to the accuracy I can measure. I left it on overnight recently, into load, and fed my RX audio into a PC running SpecLab. In "QRSS-30" mode, the waterfall line stayed on a constant frequency throughout, and was still rock steady the next morning! Keying the TX has no effect on the frequency either, no chirp, no jumping huff/puff "lock points". It should certainly be good enough for QRSS-10 or slower. The TX produces 16W, and my 2 stage 1/2 wave LPF has the 2nd & 3rd harmonics at 64dB below the carrier. It produce a constant carrier indefinitely with no overheating (65% efficiency). I chose not to key the dc feed to the PA via a FET and current limiting circuit as Jim's design - to get just a bit more voltage to the FETS! I altered the Drain transformer ratios to get a bit more than the 11w initially available. I'm toying with the idea of upping the volts a bit to get more power in hand in case I can't get enough RF current into the antenna. I've just refurbished my poorly AR7030 receiver, replacing all the front end LPF/HPF filter components and the 1st mixer IC to rectify the damage it suffered a few months ago. Sensitivity is better, as is linearity, whether the sensitivity is necessary on MF is a moot point, since external noise seems to be the limiting factor. I have heard a few stations this week, not as many as I'd hoped, but not had much time to listen/watch. I've seen QRSS-3 from G3XIZ, heard Finbar GI4DPE's CW beacon in daylight at RST229 and this evening, again in daylight, heard G3UNT calling CQ on 502.1kHz. He was also only 229, it took some time to be sure of the callsign, but it was a nice bright trace on the waterfall and QRSS-3 would have been easily possible. I've been getting lots of advice from Alan G3NYK and next step is to prepare some form of variometer tuning to replace the L/variable C that I'm tuning the antenna with for receive. I've been experimenting with an impedance bridge to estimate ground loss, and the results are encouraging so I should be able to get the thing resonant and matched ready to radiate as soon as the NOV arrives. Best 73 from the far north. At least it's starting to get a bit darker up here now as autumn approaches! John -- G-GRP-Club 2377, QRP-ARCI 12384, SKCC 3214 Member : RSGB, ARRL Shetland Islands (EU-012) IP90GG Lerwick Radio Club : http://www.gm3zet.org