X-GM-THRID: 1242428243553089592 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs536413hue; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.19.11 with SMTP id w11mr2729424ugi.1185026629551; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f3si4263123nfh.2007.07.21.07.03.46; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 07:03:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1ICFWR-0005c3-Mo for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:01:27 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1ICFWR-0005bu-7A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:01:27 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([195.4.92.90]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1ICFWQ-0006DL-3B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:01:27 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.19] (helo=mx9.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68-dev) (envelope-from ) id 1ICFWP-00033j-P3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:01:25 +0200 Received: from www9.emo.freenet-rz.de ([194.97.107.202]:54478) by mx9.freenet.de with esmtp (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #1) id 1ICFWP-0002Dz-6J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:01:25 +0200 Received: from www-data by www9.emo.freenet-rz.de with local (Exim 4.67 1 (Panther_1)) id 1ICFWO-0000vw-ER for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:01:24 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: dl4yhf@freenet.de X-Priority: 3 X-Abuse: 505770703 / 84.134.193.3 User-Agent: freenetMail MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:01:24 +0200 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.323,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: Re: LF: 500 RTTY first 2 way Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME,PRIORITY_NO_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 702 Hello Andy, as John wrote: > MSK is available in Spectrum Lab, and we have used it a little over here= =20 > on 137. Wolf's implementation is based on the PSK31 varicode. The mode=20 > does work, but seems to be a bit "deaf" compared to PSK. As I recall=20 > (it's been a while), Wolf indicated that the decoder could stand some=20 > improvement. >=20 Confirm, and not much to add here. The decoder works to some extent, but de= finitely needs improvement. I gave up on improving it at that time, since there seemed to be little int= erest in it. If I remember correctly, there was some successful 2-way MSK contacts with= in DL, and a few SWL reports, but that's about it. I never got the Massey-Hodgart decoder running properly (it always got stuc= k in some state), so we just used the simple incoherent detector with a mat= ched filter. I still have the C / C++ sources here, so anyone is invited t= o improve it ;-) Cheers,=20 Wolf DL4YHF . P.S: Thanks for the LF QSO Jim, pushing the score to four CW QSOs on one af= ternoon (PA0SE, DL2HRE, G3YXM, M0BMU).=20 Now closing on LF due to increased QRN .=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A= =0A