X-GM-THRID: 1243046961577795995 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs33548wxb; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.220.12 with SMTP id s12mr2461840ugg.1185488369050; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7si8869621nfh.2007.07.26.15.19.26; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:19:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IEBaI-0003A9-Ui for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:26 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IEBaI-0003A0-9W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:26 +0100 Received: from lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net ([193.195.70.4] ident=mirapoint) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IEBaH-0000nK-0T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:26 +0100 Received: from lon1-mailstore-2-port0.visp.demon.net (EHLO lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net) ([192.168.217.133]) by lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id FJC38916; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:24 +0100 (BST) Received: (from lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net [86.149.155.255]) by lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA) with HTTP/1.1 id ISV85662 (AUTH m0fmt@beeb.net); Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:23 +0100 (BST) From: To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Mailer: Mirapoint Webmail Direct 3.7.5a-GA MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20070726231323.ISV85662@lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net> Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 23:13:23 +0100 (BST) X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: BEACON - G3XIZ - 503.947 - BAND PLAN Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="-----29fb05c5e917491f04b57ed673b93aee" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 649 -------29fb05c5e917491f04b57ed673b93aee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All I am being embolden by the mails I am seeing on this subject. I think Chris knows my views on this matter. I am heartened by Chris's decision to move way up the band. He no doubt remembers my mail about this some weeks ago. However I will reiterate that there are plenty of beacons available to us just out of band high and low side, do we need them in band? I recently wrote to Mal in support of him on this subject. The trouble is I am not much of an operator myself but do prefer to hear live cw rather than machine Morse. And if I am being blatted by a strong signal I much prefer to be reading it as an interesting qso rather than an interminable succession of call signs sent at a deadly slow rate. The whole thing becomes the dialogue of the deaf with., if you are lucky, a reply by e-mail which is a rather asymmetric form of communication. Sorry Chris but this will not be a surprise to you. Having said the above I am indebted to you for all your help and encouragement. Vy 73 Petefmt -------29fb05c5e917491f04b57ed673b93aee Content-Type: message/rfc822; name="Message 1.eml" Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Message 1.eml" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Return-Path: <> Received: from lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net (EHLO lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net) ([193.195.70.4]) by lon1-mailstore-2.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA FastPath queued) with ESMTP id ISV24771; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:37:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from lon1-hub-4.mail.demon.net (EHLO lon1-hub.mail.demon.net) ([194.217.242.245]) by lon1-mail-1.visp.demon.net (MOS 3.7.5a-GA FastPath) with ESMTP id FJC10574; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:37:10 +0100 (BST) Received: from [193.82.116.20] (helo=post.thorcom.com) by lon1-hub.mail.demon.net with esmtp id 1IE5On-0001GC-HS for m0fmt@beeb.net; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 15:37:09 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IE5LG-0006oh-9b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:33:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IE5LF-0006oY-Rc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:33:29 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IE5LE-0007zX-Do for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:33:29 +0100 Received: (qmail 33639 invoked from network); 26 Jul 2007 15:33:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.157.212.26 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 26 Jul 2007 15:33:22 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1KcJ7ucVM1keTx5n90RS_8SictM5cQDBRDRRbwyxN1jxK.5OtZDH6jc5UWtROx0SyAKUim1GsCb2n9AcYtbHBsGKyTUo8_GF_qkWQbbyw_7VNpYv From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 16:33:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <46A8CCD3.2806.22EC818@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <31599.12389.qm@web86402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <31599.12389.qm@web86402.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.081 Subject: Re: LF: BEACON - G3XIZ - 503.947 - BAND PLAN Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false On 26 Jul 2007 at 15:55, CHRISTOPHER OSBORN wrote: > I've been calling CQ on CW for quite a while but had no takers so will > be beaconing QRSS3 on 503.947 kHz for an hour or so. > > As usual all reports are welcome. > I can beacon through the night if anyone would derive useful data from > this. > > I really think it's time for a 'band plan / code of conduct' for 500 > kHz. I for one would adhere to anything generally agreed to. How about > an on-line questionaire to operators / listeners ? > > 73 Chris G3XIZ I would support the current trend for beacons/QRSS to be towards the top end of the band. There are quite a few people crystal controlled on 502.0 and with an (apparent) increase in activity at the moment it seems sensible to keep the area above and below there available for CW QSOs. I found this morning listening to G4ADR calling CQ on 502.0 immediately followed by a QRZ from Adrian G4GDR and was a bit hesitant which of them to call when there was no response. Almost a pileup! We really need at least 1.5kHz to accomodate the current number of active CW ops and to allow for possible increased activity in the future. I am not sure an on line poll would work, there is always a problem getting people to vote... (and you know my views on QRSS). 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com -------29fb05c5e917491f04b57ed673b93aee--