X-GM-THRID: 1243119415721988373 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.87.11 with SMTP id k11cs17815wxb; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.152.16 with SMTP id z16mr2363553bud.1185531058816; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f4si11499996nfh.2007.07.27.03.10.54; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 03:10:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IEMiP-0003kC-OD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:06:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IEMiP-0003k3-Ai for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:06:33 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IEMiO-0000Hw-HK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:06:33 +0100 X-Trace: 10448302-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: -10.0 X-RemoteIP: 88.106.79.157 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=jeguGlBlnHjbnDuU46QA:9 a=YKrCKkScZr8VLL5ZdMsA:7 a=4eW00PV4N-Xv4e6v_lbCwe_r0mkA:4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.16,588,1175468400"; d="scan'208";a="10448302" Received: from 88-106-79-157.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com (HELO wgt01) ([88.106.79.157]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 27 Jul 2007 11:04:38 +0100 Message-ID: <008501c7d035$cb89d380$9d4f6a58@wgt01> From: "Gary - G4WGT" To: References: <459233.19978.qm@web86407.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2007 11:06:26 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: 500 - BAND PLAN Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1592 Hi Chris & All, I am in favour of the band plan, it looks fine to me. I have always tried to operate my beacon transmissions well away from QSO's (503.600 KHz). I do believe that there is a case for beacons as proven in Jim's (M0BMU) early morning e-mail & capture today showing a long period fading report for 2 beacons. Perhaps the answer to banning beacons at a certain time period would be to ask beacon operators to use a much lower power level at these periods, say down to Chris's recommended qrp level of <10 mW ERP. I recently ran my beacon for a long period at 1 mW ERP & received reports from Europe. As the band plan is for discussion at the moment changes can be made if required, but it looks like Chris has accommodated for the rock bound users as well. Thanks to Chris for the idea & well spent time compiling the plan for discussion. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp ----- Original Message ----- From: "CHRISTOPHER OSBORN" To: "LF group" Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 9:54 PM Subject: LF: 500 - BAND PLAN > CT > DISCUSSION POINTS > > Obviously an ideal band plan would benefit as many stations as possible to > the inconvenience of as few as possible. > > There seems to be a need to separate the QRSS modes and beacons from the > 'straight' cw segment of the band. > > There may be a case for beacon and QRSS 'silence periods' during times of > likely high cw activity (weekends). > > QRSS modes and PSK/RTTY need defined band plan locations. > > As most of the stations are congregated in the SE corner of the UK, local > QSO's amongst themselves should ideally be separated from QSO's with more > distant stations. > > It would be useful to have a QRP calling frequency to facilitate 'homing > in' on weaker stations. > > Is there a case for the call 'CQ CQ CQ X' to denote a crystal controlled > transmission ? > > 73 G3XIZ SK > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Mail is the world's favourite email. Don't settle for less, sign up > for your freeaccount today.