X-GM-THRID: 1241964589231322729 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs175969hue; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.15.15 with SMTP id s15mr2884228ugi.1184429731102; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id i7si18045901nfh.2007.07.14.09.15.23; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 09:15:31 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I9kE7-0000M7-9f for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:12:11 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I9kE6-0000Ly-Q8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:12:10 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I9kE5-0008W6-Oj for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:12:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 26453 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2007 16:12:04 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=VBfRvvGax89ODfF4NOyIgICjxg89HNcdIJigI0B14HsFdOVT4hQ+O7rttvIWONfeL2Po0NNJsXRMKd0D+QREwUFV7+jAbusE4IFqj7aPnRs0zU9VyvNoK1wWCOlQQ+fZsnrOmNLHBl1WvMPx0P3F1kZLUuSJguvepAF2he1Qbc0= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.49.241 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 14 Jul 2007 16:12:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: gycYONwVM1lFZFbldrzN9hcJt2vSQZw.bUAgVHEAkkG7dq2KOVrXW.YLDs15u918JFsqVmeDAg-- Message-ID: <002e01c7c631$bd74e400$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 17:06:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Path to Shetland Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 856 Hi Dave (and Dave !) Interesting that there seems little fading but I am not really surprised, I guess being daylight the lower ionosphere is fairly well ionised and doing all the reflections. What I would be very interested to see on a path of nearly 100km is whether the night-time signals suffer significant fading at this range. The fading is probably due to returns from two layer, and I am guessing this is worse at short distances where more signal probably passes through the lower layer. At shallower angles like that for the near 1000lm path to John I am hoping that less signal will get through the lower layer/ there may well be fading but the return from the upper layer may be weaker at this range leading to shallower fading. I could just be totally wrong, but the proof is in the practical results. It will only be a guide as John still barely has any night time and I am guessing that the upper reaches may still be illuminated quite a long way south. This is what its all about !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK