X-GM-THRID: 1242043329057007612 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs205885hue; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.26.7 with SMTP id d7mr3530275ugj.1184504823236; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k7si10498614nfh.2007.07.15.06.06.58; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 06:07:03 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IA3jg-0006kg-Qn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:02:04 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IA3jg-0006kX-8d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:02:04 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IA3jf-0004oJ-Cz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:02:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 69829 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2007 13:01:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=dOuyPkNmrKLQRv3b1uCFEFRcY8jCC+UuvunVh96SnSS28XgRw7Qdh1LetNpFdniRzDPbVZuAuZbrLH2PAEzq4R7CT5E02sHGsqgxZwb3j54ihCbu5LCKn7ZaI25/NTgO53jWLJzPRbIzdU28IcLxBezeD4TnU+sOgmB7SZhy0TE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.66.181 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 Jul 2007 13:01:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: XY5fWhgVM1mAsUNzDlzJ7sk1Ymm7tjV86FisjFiBM5CHNNHuzukdVmM8SPyAzIl6iIyUNHhucA-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.476 [269.10.5/899]); Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:01:37 +0100 Message-ID: <002101c7c6e0$472305c0$b5427ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <20070715095703.39366afa@lurcher.twatt.local><8bf118410707150209j29db069fv6c2883499a45ecef@mail.gmail.com> <20070715104111.5d11f30f@lurcher.twatt.local> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2007 14:01:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Karma: 0: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500kHz screen grabs / HRO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 950 Dear LF Group, Thanks for all the reports - It looks like 500kHz is rather like 136k in that you need a propagation path that is in darkness or near-darkness over the longer distances. It is encouraging that the QSB seems not to be too severe; it looks like QRSS contacts should be perfectly feasible over inter-European distances if signal levels won't support CW, etc. Should be interesting when winter comes around. I got out my old HRO receiver yesterday - with the 480 - 960kHz coil pack plugged in, a 0.1uV signal is at a comfortably readable level at 502kHz, so it lacks nothing in sensitivity compared to a modern RX. The selectivity is poor compared to a modern CW filter of course, but this is not too much of a problem, since there are not really any very strong signals around the band, unlike 136k. It drifts significantly, a kHz or two in the last day or so - but it is drifting very slowly, so not really a problem for normal operation, I suppose it might settle down in time. I have now installed a relay and gain control pot for muting on TX, and used it for a QSO with G3AQC this morning. What with SG Browns headphones, morse key and everything, I am starting to look like a proper radio operator now :-) Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU > Hello Dave, LF > > Yes there was a period around that time when all 3 of your were strong > and stable. The times on the screenshots are in UTC (the radio PC is > set to UTC to eliminate doubt!) > > It's only really dark here between 2200z and 0200z. It was getting > light, and signals were starting to fade, when I went to bed at 0300 > BST. > >