X-GM-THRID: 1241624068897173436 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs706934hue; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:03:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.165.16 with SMTP id n16mr2212726hue.1184104985759; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d24si6940808nfh.2007.07.10.15.03.01; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:03:05 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I8Njo-0006Oh-Jz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I8Njo-0006OY-5v for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:59:16 +0100 Received: from smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.74]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I8Njn-0008Oz-9s for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:59:16 +0100 Received: (qmail 71749 invoked from network); 10 Jul 2007 21:59:09 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=AJ+ekImL69Cm80V9/lIcEZZXRA66ryhRrcSDNE7/ydSswUSdAS5iF4LaMrZmz1Z4pdf+aNX0CaI7Rug2zL8LX20STyKqbfS5w6Jhcc1LlrONjorWHQUQb487+t+czX0Q+/YivurIjugB+BBqniFW72vgiXHVV0DE4kxZOI0mNH8= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@81.131.26.84 with login) by smtp814.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jul 2007 21:59:09 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: cFnwhBgVM1mQMQplk78Aw.WNNi.zMpLX0PhjMN1ps7mFmMv8y_hPqtloED4vK9K51rAVxkNRdQ-- Message-ID: <001301c7c33d$8cd773e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <001301c7c33a$c1acdf40$f8007ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2007 22:59:09 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Luxembourg effect Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 941 Hi Jim, I discussed this effect (ICM) at some length with Vaino OH2LX. That arrangement would seem to be fairly common. The "victim station " Lakihegy is beyond the high power BC station providing the ionospheric "heating". It would be interesting but I guess DLF is almost in line ??. I have not checked the Geomag indexes but I always noticed the effect most during a geomag storm. (We were due for a coronal hole event this evening, and it looked to be "winding up for it" at lunchtime). I guess it could precipitate excess electrons into the D-layer to be "intermodulated", but Vaino assured me there was no connection ! Now there is a nice little research project for someone !! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: James Moritz To: Sent: 10 July 2007 22:39 Subject: LF: Luxembourg effect > Dear LF Group, > > Just amusing myself with the 136kHz modified SoftRock, listening to the > Hungarian "DCF" station on 135.4kHz on lower sideband - the Luxemborg effect > is very strong this evening and the sidebands appear to come mainly from DLF > on 153kHz. If I could speak German, I could probably follow the > conversation, although it has lost a lot of the HF as is typical. There is > a most peculiar echoing effect which is very interesting to listen to. I > wonder how the time delay could originate? (there is the time delay > associated with the DSP, but I am hearing the echo on the Hungarian signal > by itself) > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > >