X-GM-THRID: 1242797033417085680 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.84.1 with SMTP id h1cs125625wxb; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:30:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.232.10 with SMTP id e10mr653204ugh.1185287451544; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id f7si233530nfh.2007.07.24.07.30.45; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 07:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IDLKi-0002Ox-AD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:25:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IDLKh-0002Oo-Go for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:25:51 +0100 Received: from mk-filter-2-a-1.mail.uk.tiscali.com ([212.74.100.53]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <500kcs@uku.co.uk>) id 1IDLKf-0007Sz-KV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:25:51 +0100 X-Trace: 9770747-mk-filter-2.mail.uk.tiscali.com-B2C-$THROTTLED-DYNAMIC-CUSTOMER-DYNAMIC-IP X-SBRS: -3.0 X-RemoteIP: 80.225.195.138 X-Cloudmark-SP-Filtered: true X-Cloudmark-SP-Result: v=1.0 c=0 a=511U5nTWX1-ef5JHHAUA:9 a=_FOPwuf3XqIMeDfZUNYA:7 a=wFMjHFFU6iHLgTnhq-3xyRhbiLoA:4 a=M2UR4SRmsDAxg7QvspYA:9 a=VkKDl2LQzM4HArKGXO8A:7 a=jHKpOg4l7Mbt1mehX7HeKizjQsIA:4 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.16,574,1175468400"; d="scan'208,217";a="9770747" Received: from ppp-4-138.leic-b-1.access.uk.tiscali.com (HELO o) ([80.225.195.138]) by smtp.tiscali.co.uk with SMTP; 24 Jul 2007 15:06:19 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c7cdfe$78702070$8ac3e150@o> From: "Gw3UEP" <500kcs@uku.co.uk> To: References: <002401c7cde9$bf9a8f40$6f3b8351@w4o8m9> Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 15:24:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Spam-Score: 0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.084,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0037_01C7CE06.A9D9B010" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 832 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C7CE06.A9D9B010 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jim, Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they are there but the limiting factor is = site noise-levels. I have solid/steady copy of kev but with little noise-margin - a few dBs = of noise would kill it. Also, fluctuating noise-levels can give the impression of qsb on weak = sigs. I have an mp3 [280k] recording of mal/chris at 10am, if you're = interested? [~240mls]. 73, Rog. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: James Moritz=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... Dear Mike, LF Group, No sign of your signal here in IO91VR north of London yet. I was = watching my own beacon signal on GM4SLV's handy screen grabber overnight. There was pretty consistent reception without much fading while the path was in darkness, and nothing at all in daylight. I have not heard anything much over 2-300km during the day time here; to me it really seems that the = ground wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" much beyond that over land, = although the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other stations near the coast can hear = each other during daylight seems to confirm substantially greater ground-wave range over the sea. All the DX reports on my beacon signals so far have = been during darkness; and the distant signals I have heard have been then = too, so it looks like the ionosphere is only really cooperating at night.Any possibility of operating your beacon after dark would be welcome here - = the 503.8 frequency is fine by me! Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Probert" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing... > Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this frequency clear? > Hope that helps > 73 > Mike GW4HXO ------=_NextPart_000_0037_01C7CE06.A9D9B010 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jim,
Re day-time land-path cw sigs; they = are there but=20 the limiting factor is site noise-levels.
I have solid/steady copy of kev but = with little=20 noise-margin - a few dBs of noise would kill it.
Also, fluctuating = noise-levels can give the=20 impression of qsb on weak sigs.
I have an mp3 [280k] recording of = mal/chris at=20 10am, if you're interested? [~240mls].
73, Rog.
 
----- Original Message -----=20
From: James Moritz
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's Testing...

Dear Mike, LF Group,

No sign of your signal here = in IO91VR=20 north of London yet. I was watching my
own beacon signal on GM4SLV's = handy=20 screen grabber overnight. There was
pretty consistent reception = without much=20 fading while the path was in
darkness, and nothing at all in = daylight. I have=20 not heard anything much
over 2-300km during the day time here; to me = it=20 really seems that the ground
wave signal levels "fall off a cliff" = much=20 beyond that over land, although
the fact that GM4SLV, G3KEV and other = stations near the coast can hear each
other during daylight seems to = confirm=20 substantially greater ground-wave
range over the sea. All the DX = reports on=20 my beacon signals so far have been
during darkness; and the distant = signals I=20 have heard have been then too, so
it looks like the ionosphere is = only really=20 cooperating at night.Any
possibility of operating your beacon after = dark=20 would be welcome here - the
503.8 frequency is fine by = me!

Cheers, Jim=20 Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message -----
From: = "Michael=20 Probert" <mjprobert@ynysdawelcottag= es.com>
To:=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Sent:=20 Tuesday, July 24, 2007 10:26 AM
Subject: RE: LF: [ 500]; Two GW's=20 Testing...


> Beacon on 503.8 now @ 10.25 BST. Is this = frequency=20 clear?
> Hope that helps
> 73
> Mike=20 GW4HXO

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