X-GM-THRID: 1240574404151628733 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs205591hue; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.126.5 with SMTP id y5mr5681584buc.1183103947242; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k5si14457793nfh.2007.06.29.00.59.03; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 00:59:07 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I4BLA-0001Bf-Lf for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:56:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I4BLA-0001BW-2E for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:56:28 +0100 Received: from imo-d03.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.35]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I4BL8-0003Ti-Uf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 08:56:28 +0100 Received: from G3vtt@aol.com by imo-d03.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id l.d12.bb1d7ae (30739) for ; Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:56:14 -0400 (EDT) From: G3vtt@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Fri, 29 Jun 2007 03:56:14 EDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: 9.0 SE for Windows sub 5022 X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: LF: G3JFS 502 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1183103774" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1439 -------------------------------1183103774 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Peter, I had the same initial experience using a 20m dipole with the feeder strapped. Signal transformation occurred when I put a loading coil 'aloft' at the dipole centre. I finally worked Ray GI3PDN and Finbar GI4DPE. There will be a note about the arrangement in the next issue of Sprat. I converted the system to a dedicated tee and I now use a link wire to short the coil and revert the system to an end fed wire with vertical and horizontal wires thus giving me some LF band capability. Actually it works quite well on 10m. I share your reservations on possible tree absorption. The coil is 180 turns on a 65mm plastic pipe which gives a measured 206 uH. I use a variometer for tuning plus a lower 22 uH coil between variometer and ground tapped to match into the 50 ohm feeder. There is a home-brew RF current meter at the top of the variometer. My ground system consists of one stake but a large number or wires under the front drive, out into the back field, in a fan under the lawn and wound around our 35ft by 45ft garden. The ATU system lives under the carport and is shared by a variety of spiders. Last week my wife laid a new patio. I saw her from the bedroom window carefully laying three more wires under the slabs. She is not for sale...... Good luck on the band. I shall listen for you during the day. Incidentally I am amazed at the lack of interest in this new band which should surely appeal to the QRP and ex marine radio types. 73 Colin G3VTT In a message dated 28/06/2007 23:08:24 GMT Standard Time, ColePe@aol.com writes: In a message dated 28/06/2007 20:58:14 Greenwich Standard Time, G3vtt@aol.com writes: I will be making slow morse test transmissions on 502 kHz until about 21:30 GMT. Appreciate reports if anyone can hear me. 73 G3JFS, Peter in Plymouth. Nothing heard here in the 'Far East' Peter. I'm currently CQing on 502 as well. Maybe our signals are colliding over Swindon? Is this as good as it gets? 73 G3VTT co/ba/pa 2E26 final 6w to a Marconi Tee up 30ft - 206 uH loading coil K2 as tuneable IF Thanks for the 'nil' report Colin. I am running about 5 watts from a 5B/254M (the so-called miniature 807) to a 40m doublet with strapped feeders. The aerial is very poor though as it is lost amongst trees that surround my garden. 73 Peter G3JFS -------------------------------1183103774 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Peter,
 
I had the same initial experience using a 20m dipole with the feeder=20 strapped. Signal transformation occurred when I put a loading coil 'aloft' a= t=20 the dipole centre. I finally worked Ray GI3PDN and Finbar GI4DPE. There will= =20 be  a note about the arrangement in the next issue of Sprat.
 
I converted the system to a dedicated tee and I now use a link wire to=20 short the coil and revert the system to an end fed wire with vertical and=20 horizontal wires thus giving me some LF band capability. Actually it works q= uite=20 well on 10m. I share your reservations on possible tree absorption.
 
The coil is 180 turns on a 65mm plastic pipe which gives a measured 206= uH.=20 I use a variometer for tuning plus a lower 22 uH coil between variometer and= =20 ground tapped to match into the 50 ohm feeder.
 
There is a home-brew RF current meter at the top of the variometer= . My=20 ground system consists of one stake but a large number or wires under the fr= ont=20 drive, out into the back field, in a fan under the lawn and wound around our= =20 35ft by 45ft garden. The ATU system lives under the carport and is shared by= a=20 variety of spiders.
 
Last week my wife laid a new patio. I saw her from the bedroom window=20 carefully laying three more wires under the slabs. She is not for=20 sale......
 
Good luck on the band. I shall listen for you during the day. Incidenta= lly=20 I am amazed at the lack of interest in this new band which should surely app= eal=20 to the QRP and ex marine radio types.
 
73
 
Colin G3VTT
 
 
 
In a message dated 28/06/2007 23:08:24 GMT Standard Time, ColePe@aol.co= m=20 writes:
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In a message dated 28/06/2007 20:58:14 Greenwich Standard Time,=20 G3vtt@aol.com writes:
I will be making slow morse test transmissions on 502 kHz unti= l=20 about 21:30 GMT.
Appreciate reports if anyone can hear me.
 
73
 
G3JFS, Peter in Plymouth.
 
Nothing heard here in the 'Far East' Peter. I'm currently CQing on=20= 502=20 as well. Maybe our signals are colliding over Swindon?
 
Is this as good as it gets?
 
73
 
G3VTT
 
co/ba/pa 2E26 final 6w to a Marconi Tee up 30ft - 206 uH loading co= il=20 K2 as tuneable IF
Thanks for the 'nil' report Colin.  I am running about 5 watts f= rom=20 a 5B/254M (the so-called miniature 807) to a 40m doublet with strapped=20 feeders.  The aerial is very poor though as it is lost amongst trees=20= that=20 surround my garden.
 
73 Peter G3JFS
 
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