X-GM-THRID: 1239612638836521426 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs312165hue; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.105.13 with SMTP id d13mr11646784buc.1182186736026; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h1si7630864nfh.2007.06.18.10.12.12; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:12:16 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I0KhB-0005qE-9Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:07:17 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I0KhA-0005q5-Hb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:07:16 +0100 Received: from iasius.site5.com ([216.118.97.235]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0Kh9-0007EH-HH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:07:16 +0100 Received: from 62-249-237-217.no-dns-yet.enta.net ([62.249.237.217] helo=daddave) by iasius.site5.com with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0KgH-0002yW-2q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 13:06:21 -0400 From: "Michael Probert" To: Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 18:06:17 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook, Build 11.0.5510 Thread-Index: AcexnagBgT5S7xehR4q74q7OuB/I2wAKj3ww In-Reply-To: <036101c7b19d$8da52260$7900a8c0@athlon1200> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-Antivirus-Scanner: This message has been scanned by ClamAV. X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - iasius.site5.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - blacksheep.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [0 0] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - ynysdawelcottages.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Message-Id: Subject: LF: RE: Re: Broad band QRM-500khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2473 On the 18th June Dave ZL3FJ wrote-- Subject: LF: Re: Broad band QRM-500khz Is the Panasonic system capable of being operated from an external battery supply? A lot of the modern ones can use a backup battery but are not designed to operate from an external DC source. But if it CAN operate from an external DC supply then you could try that-your DC supply may be a lot cleaner than the mains operated one in the system itself. But it may not be the power supply. Switching garbage (internal processors etc) could be getting out via the copper extension and trunk cabling. This is more of a challenge. Does the Panasonic system have external trunks or is it purely an internal system? If you can easily disconnect all the internal extensions and reconnect one by one, (listening for noise increase) you may get a better idea of the coupling mechanism. You need to try disconnecting the trunks as well if it has any. The printer supply should probably be replaced with a quiet one-wont be difficult unless it is providing multiple output voltages. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Many thanks for your comments Dave. We have not yet had an opportunity to open up the equipment. It does not appear to operate with an internal battery because it becomes inoperative when the mains are removed. It does have an external trunk. It provides up to 6 incoming lines and up to 20 internal extensions ie.PABX Will do what you suggest and report back. Thanks again Best regards Mike GW4HXO.