X-GM-THRID: 1239537493009243986 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs288451hue; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.151.14 with SMTP id y14mr8476407bud.1182147513315; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d26si2148204nfh.2007.06.17.23.18.28; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I0AVI-0002XI-3K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:14:20 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I0AVH-0002X9-JY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:14:19 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0AVG-0002SS-LV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:14:19 +0100 Received: from dyn-62-56-67-224.dslaccess.co.uk ([62.56.67.224] helo=Tom) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtpa (AUTH telemetry) (Exim 4.42) id 1I0AU0-000Jnc-Cd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:13:01 +0000 Message-ID: <002801c7b16f$c0cf5d50$e043383e@Tom> From: "Tom Boucher" To: References: <002101c7b124$7d195660$0300a8c0@lark> <467629A5.11691.1814DB@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 07:13:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Mike's "ADSL problem" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1618 Dave I have had ADSL filters and modems fail. Even a passive device will fail given a high enough level of static build-up on the lines - I guess it's a capacitor breaking down. After my third modem failure, I built my own phone-line protector box with some chunky transient suppressor VDRs. 73 Tom G3OLB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 6:43 AM Subject: Re: LF: Mike's "ADSL problem" > Alan, those sorts of problems are certainly due to dodgey switch mode > psus in equipment and fairly common. You and Mike should be looking > in that direction and not blaming ADSL. I would not expect problems > from ADSL as it is a balanced system and should not radiate very far > at all. You would only get any radiation if there is a dodgey > telephone connection somewhere, say in the overhead lines, where the > twin pairs have been accidentally split between two separate pairs so > the two lines do not run parallel - very rare but has been known to > happen. It most certainly will not be a dodgey ADSL filter as the > broadband signal is not filtered at all in those, only the telephone > side is filtered (and I doubt whether they ever fail despite all the > suggestions to change them when you have a fault, as passive devices > there is nothing inside them to fail...). > > So look very seriously at those smpsu's, wallwarts etc. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > >