X-GM-THRID: 1239537493009243986 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs262256hue; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:24:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.241.14 with SMTP id o14mr8184374qbh.1182115071633; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id g12si6489107nfb.2007.06.17.14.17.46; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 14:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I024y-0008LU-QF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:14:36 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I024y-0008LL-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:14:36 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I024x-0007qc-Dd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:14:36 +0100 Received: (qmail 26030 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2007 21:14:26 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=ALaHQYEsb8HQnTFWnf9gbaBWypLSRxBwqnzOqBsru55LhwyEVfLTMNgCbmjb01QTwqoTmrU9iL3xN8Mn1DwwCVcMWJ8mEp4ILyuFLs4SqCvk8X6tRyXrjS4+W0D8iHHkPN4uxX9bgJHqnNWzIP3yujmPYeAtOZ7Gq+v+xdkXCfE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.30.52 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jun 2007 21:14:26 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: FpAYsZ4VM1lB89PWEg6jISQt.XeGKZDmIzx0L7yogbI3ASVcFo4tdt_kFNCClPo8bnPiCKSe6g-- Message-ID: <002101c7b124$7d195660$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: Date: Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:14:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Mike's "ADSL problem" Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1620 Hi I am interested in all the comments. Like me Mike being rural probably has an overhead "drop". He describes the ADSL as running "all round the house". His sons run a business from the premises and I think the problem is more likely to be network cables and servers which are running 24/7. He says the QRM definitely peaks from the house on his loop but is so wide spread it cannot be completely nulled, which suggests an extended source. It may be of course he has a duff ADSL filter, I have heard of that happening. I have neighbours either side with broadband and I am not aware of any problems on 500k, but what I did notice was a horrendous noise in the middle of the band when the video recorder was sitting on timed record and the TV was switched to AV. I often do this to avoid missing programs or missing them due to a phone call in the middle. It would seem that whilst not receiving a signal, but producing a raster (blank screen with an "AV" legend) there is a large comb of frequencies at about 502. I am guessing that without a signal to lock it, the line oscillator free-runs a little above 15.625kHz. Putting my TV on standby or OFF kills the noise. Cheers de Alan G3NYK