X-GM-THRID: 1239041289856519956 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs15002hue; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.17 with SMTP id x17mr12902922bue.1181641856281; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id d2si7306210nfc.2007.06.12.02.50.52; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 02:50:56 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Hy2uC-0006KX-Iy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Hy2uB-0006KO-VY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:16 +0100 Received: from smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.72]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hy2u9-0007Gi-Va for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:15 +0100 Received: (qmail 97784 invoked from network); 12 Jun 2007 09:43:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=K6fRVPIKPkUUxN5f0a8W0jVMqZA1uZqH31RZqhfaRr9Z/w/JNd3WufgtsUgAvXDrn5tJeKBQIw+mf38izgTB0SM7cUCqNwYMXAIqPSGc9fotivKlWlGI0DCgwSIw32LcQ6f11+7dT60+z1fMbLDB9+s6IW8bu4yz0jkUgIQJA1E= ; Received: from unknown (HELO w4o8m9) (james.moritz@btopenworld.com@213.122.51.21 with login) by smtp812.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 2007 09:43:07 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 8e3PSOQVM1mx7EgxLMkctzsrMLGvfrP1Nf7ryJrelJNi4qJxNZnkfJz0X753b7YlaJzxwZxQVw-- Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.5.472 [269.8.13/844]); Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:07 +0100 Message-ID: <001301c7acd6$14f492e0$15337ad5@w4o8m9> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <000901c7aa26$ecfaff60$82147ad5@w4o8m9> <000d01c7aa8c$6d692860$7c0d7ad5@w4o8m9> <466AB1CB.2060907@telia.com> Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 10:43:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Tree current Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1404 Dear LF Group, It has often been said that trees surrounding an LF vertical antenna can be responsible for a substantial proportion of the antenna loss, and at my QTH there are several trees that have gradually been getting bigger over the years, so I decided to try to measure how much RF current was actually flowing in some trees. To measure the tree current, I used a Rogowski coil - this is like a toroidal RF current transformer, but without the magnetic core; instead of measuring the secondary current, the open-circuit voltage across the secondary is measured, and is proportional to the total current flowing through the area enclosed by the coil, the number of turns, the area of each turn, and the frequency. My Rogowski coil used 1.2m of rubber hose as a former, with about 500 turns of insulated wire, and had a scale factor of around 100mV out = 1A in. I measured the voltage with a SPM-3 selective voltmeter. The advantage of this type of current sensor is that the loop of flexible hose former can be made large enough to fit round a tree, and can be opened out, wrapped round the tree to be measured, and closed up again. A practical difficulty is that the output is quite small compared to a normal current transformer, and an aluminium foil electrostatic shield had to be added in order to reduce the effect of pick-up of the intense E-field directly under the antenna. This did not entirely eliminate the problem, but reduced it to a reasonable level. I measured the current near ground level in the trunks of 8 trees - these are scattered around within about 10m horizontally of the antenna, with heights of about 5 - 10m (antenna height is around 9 - 11m). With an antenna current around 4A, the currents ranged from 50mA to 190mA, with the total for the 8 trees being 930mA. Generally, trees closer to the antenna and with bigger areas of foliage had higher currents, as you would expect. The 8 measured are only a sample of the small trees and large bushes in and around my garden, also at about 20 - 40m distance there are larger trees all around my QTH as well. So it seems likely that a large fraction of the electric flux of the antenna is intercepted by a tree at some point, and a substantial proportion of the total antenna current is flowing to ground through trees. Since wood is a poor conductor, it is not surprising that trees close to the antenna increase the loss resistance. But also, current flowing vertically in the trees will contribute to the overall radiation of the antenna. However, since a current flowing "up" the antenna will be flowing "down" the tree, and the spacing of tree and antenna is a very small fraction of a wavelength, the effect of the tree current will be to partly cancel the overall radiation, and so reduce the radiation resistance. If the current flowing in the trees is a large fraction of the total antenna current, and the height of the trees is comparable with the antenna height, one could expect a substantial reduction in radiation resistance and effective height of the antenna, as the field strength measurements I made last week would seem to indicate. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU