X-GM-THRID: 1237561267523797451 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs472976hue; Sat, 26 May 2007 22:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.119.9 with SMTP id w9mr4247689ugm.1180244612476; Sat, 26 May 2007 22:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id e34si7558558ugd.2007.05.26.22.43.26; Sat, 26 May 2007 22:43:32 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HsBSY-0000VR-GT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:38:30 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HsBSY-0000VI-4L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:38:30 +0100 Received: from smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.61]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HsBSX-0001lw-1J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 May 2007 06:38:30 +0100 Received: (qmail 55881 invoked from network); 27 May 2007 05:38:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.139.21.103 with login) by smtp801.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 27 May 2007 05:38:19 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: B62OqgAVM1n9deemF.8mEx808B.27w1kf.dAvl6B_Sxi1KS.muvaqElO.Y21hh1.HBUTWYbJL3i.4VEp34YZUz4lzXipNBazQ4_AregiH5PilQ9D From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sun, 27 May 2007 06:38:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4659275E.20409.1810C4@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <002701c7a000$549ba880$0401010a@acer3f31164f8b> References: <999493.49098.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com>, <002701c7a000$549ba880$0401010a@acer3f31164f8b> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: QRSS on 500 kHz Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1441 On 27 May 2007 at 13:42, Mike McAlevey wrote: > Mal, > > >This LMCW mode is not used on any other amateur band, so why 500 > > QRSS is widely used on 40m and especially 30m and sometimes on all the > other HF bands. It allows most enjoyable QRPP contacts between > stations with minimal antenna space. > > Mike ZL4OL This needs qualifying. Yes, I gather there are some people using QRSS on these bands. They specifically use microwatt type power levels so the casual listener doesn't hear them at all, and they are concentrated on one or two spot frequencies in a band far wider than our LF allocations. To say they are 'widely used' is perhaps stetching it just a little. It depends what you call enjoyable. I have lots of pleasure with 5W of QRP on HFand normal CW. I am not sure I would find a QSO taking the best part of an hour with minimal factual content a particularly enjoyable experience, but obviously there are some who do. On the subject of power levels, signal levels around the UK on 500kHz with 100mW erp shows there is little real need for 1-10W erp except for longer distance - the vast majority are already at least 579, some even 599. I myself have managed a few QSOs with 3mW erp in an 'impossible' qth, I don't consider myself disadvantaged, rather I have a few things to improve. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com