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Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 09:50:22 +0200
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From: Dick Rollema <dickrollema@casema.nl>
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Subject: Re: LF: RE: 500 kHz license refused in  the Netherlands
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Dear John,

I passed your message on to Sjoerd Ypma, PA0SHY, VERON HF manager.

His reply, confirming your note,  is as follows (in my translation):
Quote.
Dick, within the HF committee of R1 a lobby is going on to get 500 
kHz on the agenda of the IARU conference 2008.
Next will be tried to get the item on the agemda of the WRC. I expect 
our radio agency waits for an official decision before issuing 
licences for 500 kHz. We, as VERON, have supported the lobby of 
Germany and other countries.
Unquote.

I hope I may live to see that happen (now 77...).

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 12:09 12-5-2007, you wrote:
>Dick, sorry to hear that, but in a way it's understandable.
>
>Can I suggest that you contact Sioerd, PA0SHY, VERON HF Manager, and bring
>his attention to the posting by Ulrich, DK4VW, DARC HF Manager, on the IARU
>Region 1 HF Manager's reflector asking for support for the proposal by
>BNetzA (The German Administration) to have the matter of an Amateur band at
>600m put on the agenda for WRC2011. The BNetzA paper can be downloaded from
>the HF Manager's reflector's files folder.
>
>BNetZA are looking for other national administrations to support their
>proposal at the final WRC07 preparatory meeting later this month.  Ulrich,
>DK4VW, DARC HF Manager has done much of the work on encouraging the BNetzA
>to put forward this proposal and is looking for the support of other
>national society HF Managers to contact their licensing administration and
>give BNetzA their support.  It's my understanding that Ofcom (UK) and the
>Greek PTT have so far pledged to support this proposal.
>
>The workings of WRC are quite complex and seem slow. Before one can get
>anything agreed one has to get the issue put on the agenda and normally to
>have completed some studies.  Whilst the agenda for the WRC2011 was set in
>outline a few years ago, there is a formal agenda item at WRC07 to consider
>any last minute additions to the agenda.  To get the matter of a 600m
>Amateur Band onto the agenda for WRC2011 has been the main focus of activity
>by the IARU Region 1 500kHz Working Group and is supported by
>representatives from Regions 2 and 3.  The work of the three beacons, the US
>and more recently UK experimental access all contributes knowledge that
>might be seen as "studies"; certainly we will be drawing together findings
>on propagation and harmonisation with other co- and adjacent-band users.
>
>Others reading this e-mail might consider trying to get their national
>administration to support the call for this being an agenda item at WRC2011.
>If so the best action is to contact your national society (HF Manager) and
>see if they are taking the appropriate action.  I will be happy to provide
>contact details if these are not know; please send me a direct e-mail if
>this is required (g3wkl@btinternet.com).
>
>73 John, G3WKL
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dick Rollema
>Sent: 10 May 2007 09:45
>To: LF-Group
>Subject: LF: 500 kHz license refused in the Netherlands
>
>
>To All from PA0SE,
>
>Our radio agency just has informed me that my application for
>permission to use the 500 kHz band has been refused.
>The arguments are:
>1. The band has not internationally been allocated as an amateurband
>and also not in The Netherlands
>2. The band is still being used for emergency, urgent and safety traffic.
>
>It has therefore been decided that for the time being the band will
>not be available for experiments by amateurs.
>
>A disappointing decision, but I had more or less expected this
>knowing how our agency operates.
>
>73, Dick, PA0SE