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Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 11:17:36 +0200
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From: Dick Rollema <dickrollema@casema.nl>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: 500 kHz license refused in  the Netherlands
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Thanks Warren for the info.

But I'm afraid our radio agency will not be impressed nor willing to 
change their view.

73, Dick, PA0SE

At 17:35 11-5-2007, you wrote:
> > * The band is national and international not an amateur band
> > * The band is still used for emergency, urgent and safety messages
> > are just as valid for Germany, UK, Sweden and USA
>
>        Dick, in the USA we were refused use of 495-505 on the basis 
> that it is allocated to maritime emergency service.
>It is apparent that the allocation tables have not caught up with 
>the reality that nobody uses these frequencies anymore, and further 
>no one even monitors these frequencies for emergency traffic 
>anymore. However no bureaucrat  will take a risk for what is 
>essentially an amateur experiment.
>
>We got around that by accepting a band from 505-510 kHz, which is 
>not designated for emergency traffic.
>
>  I have a new application in requesting 505-510 and 510-515kHz with 
> 200 watts erp and many more modes including ssb. It will take time 
> and patience to see the results of this application.
>
>
>--
>73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23/WE2XEB/2
>FN42hi
>http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm
>
>  -------------- Original message ----------------------
>From: Dick Rollema <dickrollema@casema.nl>
> > Walter, DI2AG/DJ2LF wrote:
> > :
> > >Dear Dick,
> > >        sorry about the bad news. But - how about asking your radio agency
> > >for a test- and research permit?
> > Dear Walter,
> >
> > That is exactly what I did,  with accent on the research of skywave
> > propagation and on the reliability of daytime communication using 
> small power.
> >
> > It is queer that the reasons for refusal:
> > * The band is national and international not an amateur band
> > * The band is still used for emergency, urgent and safety messages
> > are just as valid for Germany, UK, Sweden and USA  and in these
> > countries this is not a reason for refusing permission to use the
> > band for research and experiments.
> > I had also stated I wanted the permission for a limited period,
> > preferably one year. So the agency could always revoke the permission
> > after that period.
> > But being a small country our administration is always very
> > cautious  and not inclined to be at the forefront on subjects that
> > have not been agreed upon between a large number of countries in CEPT
> > or similar organisations.
> >
> > But who knows what the future may bring.  Our 136 kHz permission also
> > came rather late.
> >
> > 73, Dick, PA0SE
> >
> >
> >