X-GM-THRID: 1237168872806695230 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs280222hue; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:49:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.96.14 with SMTP id y14mr742492ugl.1179856179104; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id s1si674337uge.2007.05.22.10.49.36; Tue, 22 May 2007 10:49:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HqYQ5-0007jN-HW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 18:45:13 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HqYQ4-0007jE-OX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 18:45:12 +0100 Received: from smtpout0140.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.140] helo=n082.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HqYQ1-0000kj-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 18:45:12 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.140) by n082.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4630CFCB0020B576 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 May 2007 17:44:58 +0000 Message-ID: <002201c79c98$eb70aaa0$3be8fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: "rsgb" Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 17:44:25 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: LMCW Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6759 Lazy Man CW started in England a few years ago on 137 khz and only spread to mainland EU in a small way and I am glad to say that the 30 countries that I worked in the past were all on CW including Russia. LMCW is useful under very difficultr conditions but seldom necessary for a competent CW operator and anything slower than qrs 10 is seldom necessary, although qrs3 usually does the trick. The qrp restriction in the UK on 500 khz at present is adequate for CW around EU, it seems there is no one beyond beyond OM/OK even interested except by arrangement. It has been pointed out by others that the 100 mw does not encourage real research because it is so easy to generate this power, so with a wet string and a signal generator you have achieved the object. We need 10 w and even more realistic 20 w for real R and D to take placed, and these power levels(erp) are more difficult to achieve than you think given the average radio amateur antenna system. If there is no change in the UK pwr restriction in the future I cannot see this band lasting for long, and EU so slow to even get going it does not justify the effort. What has happened to the EEC one for all and all for one. Its all a joke. I was in EI land a couple of weeks ago and vehicle fuel was 69 pence a litre, in the UK 96.9 pence can u see what I mean, and by the way there is no council tax on properties in EI. Its now the same few amateurs keeping the band going. Look what has happened to 137 khz, it has virtually died out. Apart from the novelty of 500 kihz 160 m is a better band, does the same thing and with 400w in the dx area the world is your OYSTER!!!! 73 De Mal/G3KEV