X-GM-THRID: 1237524717528564395 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.1 with SMTP id u1cs454939hue; Sat, 26 May 2007 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.242.20 with SMTP id p20mr3786457ugh.1180195539233; Sat, 26 May 2007 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30si8948303ugf.2007.05.26.09.05.36; Sat, 26 May 2007 09:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Hryis-00068g-Q2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 17:02:30 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Hryis-00068X-9J for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 17:02:30 +0100 Received: from smtpout0190.sc1.he.tucows.com ([64.97.136.190] helo=n066.sc1.he.tucows.com) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hryir-0004xI-Ed for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 17:02:30 +0100 Received: from g3kev (62.252.232.132) by n066.sc1.he.tucows.com (7.2.069.1) id 4630CEE1001B2C0A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 26 May 2007 16:02:18 +0000 Message-ID: <001b01c79faf$3cf634d0$82d0fc3e@g3kev> From: "hamilton mal" To: References: <000701c79ef8$58d0b7a0$42e8fc3e@g3kev> <000701c79f80$2a56a460$c4227ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Sat, 26 May 2007 15:57:21 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: 500 khz ERP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6862 Jim. I did say to keep the maths SIMPLE and as a rough guide to make a point. I was not discussing a specific case nor preparing a white paper for OFCOM. de Mal/G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Moritz" To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 10:25 AM Subject: LF: Re: 500 khz ERP > Dear Mal, LF Group, > > > > To justify my ERP argument and keep the maths simple, look at examples > > below. > > > > 1. 10W rf output to the antenna and an efficiency of the average antenna > 1% > > the ERP would be 0.1W erp... > > The maths is not quite as simple as this - to calculate ERP in this way, the > directivity of the antenna compared to the reference 'half-wave dipole in > free space' must also be included: > > ERP = (TX power) x (Antenna Efficiency) x (Directivity) > > Assuming the antenna is a vertical over a ground plane that is a small > fraction of a wavelength long (or a small loop over a ground plane), its > directivity can be assumed to be 2.6dB over a dipole, i.e. a factor of 1.8. > So the ERP in your example would be 0.18W ERP. It is important to bear this > in mind in correspondence with Ofcom! > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > >