X-GM-THRID: 1234548235468190978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.35.22.8 with SMTP id z8cs248228pyi; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.92.1 with SMTP id u1mr96006ugl.1177366086123; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 27si332153ugp.2007.04.23.15.08.03; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 15:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Hg6eR-00023x-RY for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:04:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Hg6eR-00023o-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:04:51 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hg6eQ-0007vy-L8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:04:51 +0100 Received: from g3xaq.demon.co.uk ([80.176.129.138]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1Hg6eP-000Gfh-CU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 23 Apr 2007 22:04:50 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2007 23:03:25 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: Alan Ibbetson References: <000a01c785dd$456ebba0$79e8fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000a01c785dd$456ebba0$79e8fc3e@g3kev> MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Turnpike/6.04-S (<7ZpEZ1eeE9Ulka1sdEdXKvpuS1>) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 500 EASY START Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2959 Hello everyone, Alan G3XAQ here. I just joined this mailing list. I'm preparing my application for a 501KHz NoV, so Mal's note on an easy start is very timely. For me, there is an even easier route to getting on 600m in that I already have a 3 stage transmitter with plug in coils. The only problem is I will need a fundamental crystal somewhere in the band. Quartslab don't seem to do LF crystals. Does anyone know of a supplier? Is there an archive anywhere of the aerials folks are using? I'm thinking of pressing my 15m high 160m inverted-L into service. The vertical section runs quite close to my tower and I was wondering if it's worth end loading the wire with a coil, part way along the horizontal section, just to get the high voltages away from the tower? I know that going from triangular to uniform current distribution (below the coil) will raise the radiation resistance 4 times, but since we are being licensed on ERP this just means I will need half the aerial current. My motivation is tower coupling loss minimisation, seeing as I can't measure it, not absolute efficiency. Mind you, all this ERP stuff seems a bit bonkers and quite unlike the usual ham licensing approach. Who can measure ERP with any accuracy? Why not just give us the usual stipulation of tx power at the feedpoint and leave it to all of us to make the most efficient aerials we can? What is de rigeur for the receive aerial? Does everyone use the transmit aerial, or should I be thinking about a medium wave DXer's tuned loop? Sorry for the dumb questions. There doesn't seem to be much on the web that is useful for amateur sized gardens. My Services Textbook of Radio vol 5 suggests that for MF I should begin by erecting a 100m tower... I hope to get the NoV application off by the weekend. See you all on the band soon. Alan G3XAQ In message <000a01c785dd$456ebba0$79e8fc3e@g3kev>, hamilton mal writes >Hi All >An Easy Start solution for 500 is to use an existing HF rig modified for 5 >mhz tx at low power, then shape the sine wave to sq wave with a single chip >and divide by 10 with another chip then a driver chip to a fet pa, then lpf >and you are in business. A single fet class E pa is sure fire and so simple >to build. Mine went first time. >My solution for an exciter is an IC 706 on 5 mhz and also used on 13.7 mhz >for LF used. This is a vy stable sig source. >If anyone needs more info about type of chips etc let me know. >73 de Mal/G3KEV > > > -- Cheers, Alan G3XAQ alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk