X-GM-THRID: 1234548235468190978 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.35.22.8 with SMTP id z8cs269510pyi; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.90.34.3 with SMTP id h3mr1635000agh.1177421589135; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:33:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id b35si1390955ugd.2007.04.24.06.33.06; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HgL2z-0004jb-4l for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HgL2y-0004jS-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:08 +0100 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HgL2x-0002AI-3o for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:08 +0100 Received: from pr-webmail-2.demon.net ([194.159.244.50]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HgL2w-000GOk-Bm for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 13:27:06 +0000 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=web.mail.demon.net) by pr-webmail-2.demon.net with smtp (Exim 4.42) id 1HgL2w-000FNs-6l for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:06 +0100 Received: from g3xaq.demon.co.uk ([148.168.40.4]) by web.mail.demon.net with http; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:06 +0100 From: alan@g3xaq.demon.co.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <002f01c7866c$23fb2500$2b417ad5@w4o8m9> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 14:27:06 +0100 User-Agent: Demon-WebMail/2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: 500 EASY START Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2956 Thanks very much for all the feedback I've received, both on and off the list. Jim seems to pretty much cover all my points, thanks. The only minor followup question I have, that might be of general interest to the group, concerns loading coils > if the horizontal section is much longer than the vertical section, > the vertical current distribution will be nearly uniform, less current will > be capacitively coupled into the tower, and the effect of the tower and/or > loading coil will be minimal. If the horizontal top-loading section is > shorter, adding an elevated loading coil as you describe will have more > beneficial effect. This rather depends on whether your inverted L is cut for > operation on the 160m band, or is 160m long. The effect also depends on the > spacing between the downlead and the tower. My 160M inverted-L is 15M vertical and 35M horizontal (with a series 1000pF variable capacitor at the base, it looks like 50+j0 ohms on 1830KHz). For mechanical reasons, I've compromised the downlead arrangement: the wire runs through a plastic pulley at the top of my tower and so is very close to the metalwork up there. At the base, I am using low grade insulation for the wire run into the ATU shed, because the voltages are low on 160M. I fear the tower proximity will degrade performance, but I have to live with it. The horizontal top could be extended, perhaps from 35M to 50M, but not enough for resonance on 500KHz. Multiple loading wires are aesthetically unattractive. In addition to reducing tower coupling losses, the elevated loading coil looks attractive as a route to reducing high (reactive) voltages near the base; even 500v makes me nervous with dogs, wives, and low grade "160M" insulation on site! Noone is offering me 500KHz crystals, so it looks like I'll be scratch building a transmitter using a mixer VXO or a ceramic resonator. Thanks everyone, Alan G3XAQ