X-GM-THRID: 1234647085444953809 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.35.22.8 with SMTP id z8cs296316pyi; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.10.18 with SMTP id n18mr1193217ugi.1177484898276; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 30si2580306ugf.2007.04.25.00.08.16; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:08:18 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HgbYh-0007Z1-HD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:04:59 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HgbYh-0007Ys-2F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:04:59 +0100 Received: from smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.73]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HgbYf-0005Aq-QW for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:04:58 +0100 Received: (qmail 79175 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2007 07:04:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.132.254.161 with login) by smtp813.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2007 07:04:48 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: .zBm_5sVM1ncagwAYr2Xn5Rz0cBCmUQ5c1UT8TmPcNBx.rFA1TnKBSTSsGbSPGj4P16h1h5pkwIVaVh76kv8PGZWV5lEKRSBf6fvQAbLvuynIMXg From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 08:04:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <462F0BA2.28761.59E231@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: References: <001901c785f7$bb64a4e0$0300a8c0@lark>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: [ 500] EASY START - ceramic resonators et al Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1912 On 24 Apr 2007 at 22:44, Dave G3WCB wrote: > I've done a few tests with trying to "pull" crystals and resonators up > into the 501-504 kHz band. I used a single NPN transistor in a Colpits > configuration with a 3 - 30pf trimmer capacitor in series with the > crystal. Dave's tests make interesting reading, and it is because of this difficulty of pulling 500kHz crystals in VXOs that I did not even consider doing it this way. My twin VXO, as previously mentioned, uses 5.9 and 6.4MHz crystals. I had already used a VXO in my 5MHz rig and the circuit I used is virtually identical to that one - see http://www.davesergeant.com/fivemegs/60mtx.htm I made the 6.4MHz crystal the 'tunable' one and found with a single 50pF variable cap in series it would pull around 4kHz high. I needed to pull the 5.9MHz one low to give a 501kHz difference and achieved this by replacing the series cap with an inductor. I tried quite a few inductors (miniature fixed parts) and was amazed how far I could pull it - the first attempt with 100uH dragged it down about 20kHz! I found 10uH achieved the required 1kHz downward shift - this vxo is fixed, all tuning is done by pulling the 6.4MHz crystal. In place of the fet buffer in the 5MHz design I replaced it with a 3N201 dual gate mosfet and used this as a mixer. A 470kHz mw if transformer conveniently tuned the output to 501kHz. This method seems to be a very staightforward way of getting on the band. I have quite a few crystals in the 5.5-6.4MHz range which I could offer to others in 500kHz spaced pairs. I have been diverted the past few days on other matters but hope to get the pa side wired up pretty soon. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com