X-GM-THRID: 1229954385228438475 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.73.3 with SMTP id a3cs688195wal; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 08:57:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.98.9 with SMTP id a9mr8469953ugm.1173027434662; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 39si4745073ugb.2007.03.04.08.57.14; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 08:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HNtz5-0004Th-KZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:54:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HNtz5-0004TY-8L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:54:55 +0000 Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com ([194.25.134.82]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HNtz4-0000x6-Hg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 16:54:55 +0000 Received: from fwd28.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1HNtz3-0007Xf-01; Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:54:53 +0100 Received: from localhost (TWnXBsZrYeKPPxIsdQzR5LEQXvxUA8hXylWP-60D5j9jVjmcx0WNk6@[172.20.101.250]) by fwd28.aul.t-online.de with esmtp id 1HNtyn-09TuYy0; Sun, 4 Mar 2007 17:54:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <004e01c75e05$e52c6d90$7f01a8c0@VY1JA> References: <002101c75b37$1e370680$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <001701c75b40$54bc2740$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <07d101c75de9$8355a620$7900a8c0@athlon1200> <003601c75e02$7e952e80$7f01a8c0@VY1JA> <004e01c75e05$e52c6d90$7f01a8c0@VY1JA> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 17:54:37 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-UMS: email X-Mailer: TOI Kommunikationscenter V7-7-2 From: "hajo.brandt.dj1zb@t-online.de" Message-ID: <1HNtyn-09TuYy0@fwd28.aul.t-online.de> X-ID: TWnXBsZrYeKPPxIsdQzR5LEQXvxUA8hXylWP-60D5j9jVjmcx0WNk6@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: bc1b496c-e8e3-4c88-a949-c739f52fa0fa X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 VY1JA LWL tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2539 Dear J. and others, my experience is that any high wire aerial in L or T form for LF will work fine for reception on 500 kHz, even untuned, feeding into the shack via coaxial cable! This has been confirmed by SM6BHZ in a private email. When tuning the aerial noise will come up as well and therefore will not be of any advantage, the signal to noise ratio for receive will remain the same. Height of the arial is most important to catch weak signals! Untuned vertical loop aerials (mine with a circumference of 15 meter wire) will also work for reception even at low altitudes, pereferably when using a preamplifier. If possible the reactive impedance of the loop should be matched to the amplifier input by a broadband transformer. In some cases preselectivity may be needed before amplification. Tuning the antenna is always necessary on MF to LF for transmitting, of course. Good luck! 73 ha-jo, DJ1ZB ---Original Message----- Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2007 03:36:21 +0100 Subject: LF: 500 VY1JA LWL tonight From: "J. Allen" To: All 500 kHz ops. I do not know how well my 137 kHz antenna will work as a receiving antenna on 500, but tonight will be my first attempt to receive there. �Naturally, the beacon will be QRT on 137 to do this. I apologize, but so far I have not followed what frequencies to be watching. Anyone who feels that they are close enough for reception please drop me a direct message so that I know where to begin watching or listening. �I have a good ear for weak signal CW., and if you like I will capture the audio and send out a .WAV file of anything I hear. J.