X-GM-THRID: 1229031127675896795 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.65.98.14 with SMTP id a14cs46777qbm; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.117.18 with SMTP id u18mr10261931ugm.1172095420900; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:03:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h1si10098890ugf.2007.02.21.14.03.39; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 14:03:40 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: bad (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1HJzWP-00064X-Uw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:01:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1HJzWP-00064O-ES for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:01:09 +0000 Received: from smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.71]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1HJzWP-0001ae-5B for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:01:09 +0000 Received: (qmail 94673 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2007 22:01:03 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:Importance:X-MimeOLE:In-Reply-To; b=XiPcD/V698mcobQWASQMscco6h63KDDBZTxl7FRaMZJK16bk5DqTTvLrJwra9vrbeyF9MSMEm5QCTToLewRKAhPxLcqort/7V7gnoFaGiUZmtR3L+r4xSybHbFGERurnr0QhdTvMcNUpdbW7xJDI48lQmtgBlRUBzoiiDjOP/so= ; Received: from unknown (HELO aquarids) (ganymede444@btinternet.com@86.141.123.116 with login) by smtp811.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Feb 2007 22:01:03 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: vgCpGYIVM1nw8A_FXsTQZo7FNk1beoXNs_p.EEA4iQtWon9IZozvi5n8EoCzAf0WTHGl0CKeDMnqRBrXGViDXpmK0bAc8xezRZPoqG6PpBVNCItUYjY4wpOKUKIcPxBkrhp.I5OHFT1I From: "Dave G3WCB" To: Date: Wed, 21 Feb 2007 22:01:33 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1441 In-Reply-To: <000301c75600$75a07ff0$0c01a8c0@acer5gi5q0ubzj> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3268 Dear John, LF, 2.000 and 4.000 MHz crystals are commonly available, so it probably be possible to "rubberize" them into the bottom end of the allocation, so maybe a QRSS/DFCW spot at 501.500 might be appropriate. I'll do some tests on some RS components crystals that I have, and report back. DDS is the way to go for full flexibility....which type are you building? 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John W Gould Sent: 21 February 2007 21:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: RE: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs I'm busy building a DDS, but if that fails to work in a sensible timescale I'll need to be xtal controlled, so an agreement where we might cluster for QRSS/DFCW might be worthwhile. This might also be helpful for others. Are there any obvious frequencies that are divides from standard crystals? 73 John, G3WKL -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB Sent: 21 February 2007 20:28 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs LF Group, Is anyone willing to propose a voluntary bandplan for the UK 501 kHz allocation? We could follow the same sort of scheme that is followed on 137 kHz, with separate areas for CW, digital and QRSS/DFCW modes. The 3kHz available is broadly similar to the 137 kHz allocation, and won't be enough to permit much by way of "broadband" operation (MCW, DSB-AM, SSB, or even drifty CW etc) 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of John W Gould Sent: 21 February 2007 11:03 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Special Research Permits (501-504kHz) for UK Amateurs Ofcom has announced today that a limited number of SRPs will me made available for 12 months from 1st March. See http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/Notices/200 70221 and the RSGB and Spectrum Forum websites. 73 John, G3WKL RSGB HF Manager