X-GM-THRID: 1225186437573260543 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.58.13 with SMTP id g13cs39438wxa; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.67.89.5 with SMTP id r5mr677083ugl.1168448649158; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 20si35489741uga.2007.01.10.09.04.08; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 09:04:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1H4gkR-0006BV-IN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:56:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1H4gkR-0006BM-5D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:56:23 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4gkN-00038v-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:56:23 +0000 Received: from [192.168.0.1] (cha86-1-82-247-200-10.fbx.proxad.net [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E70843981 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:56:18 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45A51AB2.4040903@online.fr> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 17:56:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.9 (Windows/20061207) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <45A4A564.3040002@online.fr> <002101c734aa$cc140fe0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <45A4D4F4.4030906@w1tag.com> <007b01c734ca$ea77b3e0$0300a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <007b01c734ca$ea77b3e0$0300a8c0@lark> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A last night :onlly a few traces XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3479 Hello Alan and all , Very beautiful explanation, thank you. If you look at the Capt_06=20 capture ( http://jpmere.online.fr/Temp/ ) one the increase of noise=20 between 03:30 and 05:30 sees very well (the lines of LORAN disappear! )=20 On the Plot_06 stud it is even more visible! Explanation of the scale in=20 dB: -5dB =3D average Noise of day; 0dB =3D average noise of night; the sc= ale=20 is precise with a margin of 0.2 dB. Jean-Pierre f1afj Alan Melia a =E9crit : > Hi John I did have static type interference here much worse that earlie= r in > the week. I have the characteristic vertical streaks.....the levels may= have > been more continuous with Jean-Pierre. Extra-terrestrial noise would no= t be > able to penetrate the ionosphere, and there doesnt seem to be much auro= ral > activity at present. It could of course be "favourable fading", only in= this > case favouring maybe eastern European noise source propagation. Signals= here > were down but I only started captures about 0100z. > > There is a sign in Steve's plot, if you remove the 0700 peak, that leve= ls > were dropping steadily from about 0330z. This effect is confirmed by > Laurence. I wonder if this just means that the Ring Current is not depl= eted > of electrons yet and is still exchanging them with the D-layer. The sto= rm > that started it all was cited as "severe" (Kp=3D8) and we have seen in > previous years a storm of that magnitude delay propagation recovery by > upwards of 28 days. What was a surprise was the relatively shallow dip = in > Dst it produced (only down to -160nT, when we could quite easily have > expented -300nT) and then the very rapid initial "recovery". > > I do not have the expertise to pontificate on this but I am wondering > whether, because there are several "orbits" in the Ring Current, these > severe storms populate the outer (higher energy?) ones more heavily and > these electrons take longer to decay to an energy where they can be > precipitated. It is undoubtedly much more complex than that (it always = is > !!).....but it makes a good simple story !! > > Thanks to all for all the data and reports without which, it would be > impossible to concoct these "off the wall" theories.....even if they ar= e > hopelessy incorrect it is great fun ! > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: John Andrews > To: > Sent: 10 January 2007 11:58 > Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A last night :onlly a few traces XES > > > =20 >> Jean-Pierre, Jay, >> >> XES did not go on the air until 0305 UTC last night. I am puzzled as t= o >> why conditions were so poor for both stations. It will be interesting = to >> see Hartmut's report. >> >> John Andrews >> >> >> >> >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu