X-GM-THRID: 1225186437573260543 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.58.13 with SMTP id g13cs33754wxa; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.171.13 with SMTP id t13mr112096hue.1168442720569; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:25:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 3si24058010huc.2007.01.10.07.25.18; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 07:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1H4fG6-0005om-LI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:20:58 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1H4fG6-0005od-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:20:58 +0000 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H4fG3-00025C-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:20:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 78231 invoked from network); 10 Jan 2007 15:20:50 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=Vf3kwpOQ1oAeTkQcqrmH0I6yYXu/wN8A6l3EpQxr3etf/bHukiwgNi3o2cnSbsEreUu5+1bD3jKgb6YUJ520iEIeLZrxkHhjwC353kzdO7JaYF+sgd1ZUt1HSNnQmc7zQrFpB2doNZRRo5Tz4iVYJLWg02CoBZmd5w/o38IQ4FE= ; Received: from unknown (HELO lark) (alan.melia@btinternet.com@213.122.76.183 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Jan 2007 15:20:49 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 6Nd19DIVM1l3khak.DRXaNV792ZVUWXyte3ZaSThUQhSkSYkTczQWMsLN6MbccvvNRwfbhrUNO.gC2VGgxMaZhr.gP9NfCepLUUCiJs7vI_a2PeW.GMAEfzcf.MOlxHiiEcKw3WPEVsZ Message-ID: <007b01c734ca$ea77b3e0$0300a8c0@lark> From: "Alan Melia" To: References: <45A4A564.3040002@online.fr> <002101c734aa$cc140fe0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <45A4D4F4.4030906@w1tag.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 15:20:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A last night :onlly a few traces XES Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3481 Hi John I did have static type interference here much worse that earlier in the week. I have the characteristic vertical streaks.....the levels may have been more continuous with Jean-Pierre. Extra-terrestrial noise would not be able to penetrate the ionosphere, and there doesnt seem to be much auroral activity at present. It could of course be "favourable fading", only in this case favouring maybe eastern European noise source propagation. Signals here were down but I only started captures about 0100z. There is a sign in Steve's plot, if you remove the 0700 peak, that levels were dropping steadily from about 0330z. This effect is confirmed by Laurence. I wonder if this just means that the Ring Current is not depleted of electrons yet and is still exchanging them with the D-layer. The storm that started it all was cited as "severe" (Kp=8) and we have seen in previous years a storm of that magnitude delay propagation recovery by upwards of 28 days. What was a surprise was the relatively shallow dip in Dst it produced (only down to -160nT, when we could quite easily have expented -300nT) and then the very rapid initial "recovery". I do not have the expertise to pontificate on this but I am wondering whether, because there are several "orbits" in the Ring Current, these severe storms populate the outer (higher energy?) ones more heavily and these electrons take longer to decay to an energy where they can be precipitated. It is undoubtedly much more complex than that (it always is !!).....but it makes a good simple story !! Thanks to all for all the data and reports without which, it would be impossible to concoct these "off the wall" theories.....even if they are hopelessy incorrect it is great fun ! Cheers de Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: John Andrews To: Sent: 10 January 2007 11:58 Subject: Re: LF: Re: T/A last night :onlly a few traces XES > Jean-Pierre, Jay, > > XES did not go on the air until 0305 UTC last night. I am puzzled as to > why conditions were so poor for both stations. It will be interesting to > see Hartmut's report. > > John Andrews > > > >