X-GM-THRID: 1225152209020048387 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.58.13 with SMTP id g13cs180932wxa; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.248.5 with SMTP id v5mr1170742ugh.1168620639361; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id l40si2053037ugc.2007.01.12.08.50.38; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 08:50:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1H5PW3-0005ZN-1Z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:44:31 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1H5PW2-0005ZE-HV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:44:30 +0000 Received: from alnrmhc13.comcast.net ([204.127.225.93]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1H5PVz-000420-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:44:30 +0000 Received: from airportterminal (c-71-234-114-84.hsd1.ct.comcast.net[71.234.114.84]) by comcast.net (alnrmhc13) with SMTP id <20070112164418b130032u0ce>; Fri, 12 Jan 2007 16:44:19 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c73669$1a88fe00$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> From: "Jay Rusgrove" To: References: <000b01c734ed$af2cf0c0$6401a8c0@JAYTERMINAL> <005d01c734f2$5ac5f040$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <003701c735a9$1a79bf00$17ccfc3e@g3kev> <000501c7362b$573a4a40$2fe8fc3e@g3kev> <45A78E5B.7040306@att.net> <45A7ADB5.2000002@w1tag.com> Date: Fri, 12 Jan 2007 11:45:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 X-Thorcom-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: East to West TA attempts Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C7363F.314E40C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3166 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C7363F.314E40C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All 2 cents... I'm beginning to wonder if we're not looking at this backwards... What I mean by that is, we're focusing on the current poor conditions as = abnormal. It appears abnormal when compared to the few good nights of = propagation we had about a week ago. Perhaps the few good nights were = the anomoly and not the current poor conditions. My reason for saying this is that I've looked over the past couple years = notes on my TA receptions. In past years, assuming DST numbers today are = equivelenet to those in past years (which may or may not be the case), I = rarely if ever had a decent TA reception when the DST was in negative = territory.=20 To me, last weekend's good TA propagation with a DST of -20 or -15 = would be very unusual - using the past history as a guide. 2 cents...take it for what it's worth... Jay W1VD / WD2XNS =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: John Andrews=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 10:48 AM Subject: Re: LF: East to West TA attempts All, I wouldn't recommend losing sleep trying to get signals across at this = point. Conditions are quite poor, and may not get better quickly, as = the=20 flow from a coronal hole will kick in around Monday. Jay and I will=20 likely be running enough over the weekend to see how things are going. = I'd be hesitant to put a timetable on the recovery, as this week's=20 propagation crash is not fully understood. John A. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C7363F.314E40C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All
 
2 cents...
 
I'm beginning to wonder if we're not = looking=20 at this backwards...
 
What I mean by that is, = we're focusing=20 on the current poor conditions as abnormal. It appears=20 abnormal when compared to the few good nights of propagation we had = about a=20 week ago. Perhaps the few good nights were the anomoly and not the = current poor=20 conditions.
 
My reason for saying this is that I've = looked over=20 the past couple years notes on my TA receptions. In past years, assuming = DST=20 numbers today are equivelenet to those in past years (which may = or may not=20 be the case), I rarely if ever had a decent TA reception = when the DST=20 was in negative territory. 
 
To me, last weekend's good TA = propagation with a=20 DST of  -20 or -15 would be very unusual = - using the=20 past history as a guide.
 
2 cents...take it for what it's=20 worth...
 
Jay W1VD / WD2XNS
 
   
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 John = Andrews
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 = 10:48=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: East to West = TA=20 attempts

All,

I wouldn't recommend losing sleep trying to = get=20 signals across at this
point. Conditions are quite poor, and may = not get=20 better quickly, as the
flow from a coronal hole will kick in = around=20 Monday. Jay and I will
likely be running enough over the weekend = to see=20 how things are going.
I'd be hesitant to put a timetable on the = recovery,=20 as this week's
propagation crash is not fully = understood.

John=20 A.

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