X-GM-THRID: 1222419215961516802 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.56.11 with SMTP id e11cs453471wxa; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:17:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.78.128.15 with SMTP id a15mr1674778hud.1165871829989; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:17:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 8si2865021hug.2006.12.11.13.17.08; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 13:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GtsQy-0001mc-5B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:11:36 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.35] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GtsQx-0001mT-Mb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:11:35 +0000 Received: from smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl ([194.109.24.29]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GtsQu-00055K-Gl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 21:11:35 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (a82-92-108-254.adsl.xs4all.nl [82.92.108.254]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kBBLBQTM074839 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:11:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from nl9222@xs4all.nl) Message-ID: <457DC97E.3050902@xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 22:11:26 +0100 From: Ko Versteeg User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3f5.12571ae4.32ade2fe@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <3f5.12571ae4.32ade2fe@aol.com> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0656-0, 12/11/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: by XS4ALL Virus Scanner X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by smtp-vbr9.xs4all.nl id kBBLBQTM074839 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Grabber image format Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6731 MarkusVester@aol.com wrote: > Dear LF Group, >=20 > today I have changed the 8-bit image format for my grabber from .gif to= =20 > .png. This appears to save some 20% of volume, due to a more effective=20 > lossless compression algorithm. >=20 > When I started grabber operation I had tried various flavours of .jpg=20 > first, but the halved colour resolution soon turned out inadequate for=20 > many fine details on the colour-DF display. With 256 colours and=20 > lossless compression, resolution looked much better, but very weak=20 > signals and noise details tended to get masked off by too few dark=20 > palette entries. I got around that by brightening the original bitmap=20 > (gamma=3D1.49 in IrfanView) before reducing to 8 bits, and then darkeni= ng=20 > the colour table again (gamma=3D0.67) before uploading. >=20 > Please report if you find any difficulties displaying or downloading th= e=20 > .png images. >=20 > 73 de Markus, DF6NM >=20 > http://members.aol.com/df6nm/Grabber.htm Hi Markus No problem here either I am using .PNG for 2 years now on the website for some images, 6 i guess that have to be clear [ without .JPG fringing and discoloring] 73 and Season Greetings, Ko. --=20 NL9222 "The only way out is Through" Loc: JO22KE [ Lat: 52=B0 12' 15.89" N ~ Lon: 04=B0 51' 42.04" E ] WWW: http://www.xs4all.nl/~nl9222 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0656-0, 12/11/2006 Tested on: 12/11/2006 10:11:31 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com