X-GM-THRID: 1223508388274751074 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.56.11 with SMTP id e11cs345396wxa; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:02:06 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.232.10 with SMTP id e10mr13103434ugh.1166828525886; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j3si13722283ugd.2006.12.22.15.02.01; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:02:05 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GxtM5-0004PH-Mw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:59:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GxtM5-0004P8-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:59:09 +0000 Received: from alias1.ihug.co.nz ([203.96.222.11]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GxtM1-0008Vc-Ff for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Dec 2006 22:59:09 +0000 Received: from ironport5.ihug.co.nz [203.109.254.25] by alias1.ihug.co.nz with esmtp (Exim 3.36 #1 (Debian)) id 1GxtHH-0006Oy-00; Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:54:11 +1300 Received: from 203-109-220-224.bliink.ihug.co.nz (HELO athlon1200) ([203.109.220.224]) by ironport5.ihug.co.nz with SMTP; 23 Dec 2006 11:58:58 +1300 X-Ironport-Seen: Yes Message-ID: <127901c7261b$3d068b40$7900a8c0@athlon1200> From: "Dave Brown" To: References: <003c01c72613$74862150$7c7ba8c0@Werkkamer> Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2006 11:48:02 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: PE1RRF test on friday 22 dec. Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3322 Frank How about a picture of the ballon/corona ring -I think we all would like to see what it looks like. Someone here can no doubt post it where we can all access it? 73 Dave, ZL3FJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Dijkshoorn." To: Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: LF: PE1RRF test on friday 22 dec. Hi, Thanks Michael, Stephan, Markus and Nicolas for your report on todays test this erly morning. This morning there was absolutely no wind and I tried my experimental aluminum top wire under a Helium filled balloon. The balloon was hanging during mij whole transmission on 136.3205 Khz almost straight above mij aerial mast at 45 meters high. My telescopic mast itself is 22 meters high, the balloon is 70 CM in diameter and lifts up 23 meters wire and a smal corona ring of 12 CM. My reception increeses enormous with this topwire and I did not expect that the TX works also good. The aluminumwire is very thin en having a high resistance, and my earth system will be too small for this large aerial system. I was surprised that this thin wire works so well with only the small corona ring as top capacity. The aerial current was around 3 Ampere, and the loading coil needs no impendance transformer to get a good SWR. 73, from experimental station PE1RRF. Ps. I live in a very industrialised area with heavy steel constructions nearby my QTH, I think that makes the difference in aerial height bigger than normal. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/598 - Release Date: 22/12/2006 15:22