X-GM-THRID: 1220422427979444373 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 89d2a15d8293901c9811eb3cc88c084d71d1b792 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.70.28.15 with SMTP id b15cs184958wxb; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.66.244.10 with SMTP id r10mr5113071ugh.1163920901261; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id j33si5882426ugc.2006.11.18.23.21.40; Sat, 18 Nov 2006 23:21:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GlgxK-0004hD-54 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:19:10 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GlgxE-0004h4-Ob for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:19:04 +0000 Received: from smtp6-g19.free.fr ([212.27.42.36]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1GlgzV-0005Ux-UK for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 07:21:29 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (unknown [82.247.200.10]) by smtp6-g19.free.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 828C4435E7 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:19:00 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <45600563.9090001@online.fr> Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2006 08:18:59 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Pierre_M=E9r=E9?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.8 (Windows/20061025) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <111820062140.10929.455F7DB40008434500002AB122064244130B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> <002f01c70b64$efc44140$0300a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <002f01c70b64$efc44140$0300a8c0@lark> X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0649-1, 18/11/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 3740 Hello Alan , Warren and all ! I have just read what you have write Alan, it is very interesting and=20 answer perfectly the questions that I was posed! Thank you very much for=20 this explanation. 73qro all , Jean-Pierre f1afj Alan Melia a =E9crit : > Hi Both, > What is more interesting is that the darkness shadow at 100km altitude = is > still about 2000km east of Warren at that time. So he is either hefting= a > signal over on a single hop (at least to the UK) or he is D-layer bounc= ing > it into the darkness zone. I have my doubts about this last explanation= as > the absorption increases just before sunset. You should see him dip dow= n in > strength and then comup to full strength as the two hop path becomes fu= lly > dark, This will occur around local sunset, but the darkness shadow at 1= 00km > altitude will still be 1000km east of Warren.....the position for the f= irst > skywave "bounce". It is quite interesting how accurately this ties up w= ith > the simple geometry. > http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/geometry.htm > > Cheers de Alan G3NYK > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 > To: ; > Cc: Gary - G4WGT > Sent: 18 November 2006 21:40 > Subject: Re: LF: RE: WD2XGJ tonight > > > =20 >> Hi Gary, >> >> =20 >>> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak. >>> =20 >> Thanks for the report, 20:30 was still daylight here, sunset is 21:2= 0 >> =20 > UTC today. > =20 >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ/WD2XSH/23 >> FN42hi >> http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xgj.htm >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: "Gary - G4WGT" >> =20 >>> Hi Warren & LF, >>> >>> Same here from 2030 UTC but weak. >>> >>> 73 >>> >>> Gary - G4WGT- IO83qp >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Hartmut Wolf= f >>> Sent: 18 November 2006 20:48 >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Subject: LF: WD2XGJ tonight >>> >>> XGJ visible here since about 20:10 UTC. >>> >>> 73 >>> Hartmut >>> www.h-wolff.de >>> Locator: JO52hp >>> >>> >>> =20 >> =20 > > > > > =20 --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu